Ryan Williams

Did he? I recall the same comments as Mario and I've not heard of any reference being made to an operation.

 

How so?

 

Comment on Radio Sheffield. I think.

 

Any suggestion that Williams is not physically injured is based purely on speculation. Johnson suggested that he may have struggled to mentally get over his injury (similar to the sturridge situation) however he has played since then and there is no suggestion the latest injury is anything but physical. Furthermore, even if his playing time was restricted by mental issues, there is no evidence that he isn't "working on them" as suggested in the original post.

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Although I have no inside knowledge of whats up with him, a 7 month groin injury seems a bit far fetched to me. Is he the same as Sturridge in that he's unwilling to play through any kind of little twinge?


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Because the (former) manager said.

 

There was suggestions that sturridge was unable to play through the pain barrier yes. He's recently come back and scored goals and played well. Same could happen with Williams. And he hasn't been injured for 7 months straight has he. Also, what is so far-fetched about a recurring injury?

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ironic, when WSB11 charity money is going to M I N D and we bought a record amount, but when it is alleged a player of ours is struggling in some way mentally causing him to not want to play ,we want him shipping out ASAP , strange ?

 

How long was he back for? Not very if I remember correct and what seems far fetched to me is that every precaution will have been taken, he wont have been risked and hurried back and in this day and age they know how to build strength in every muscle in the body to best prevent further injury in problem parts.


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Im not saying he hasnt had a recurring problem but to me there has to be a question there as to whether he's playing through the barrier or not


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Well we don't know either way do we. That's my point. And even if it is a mental issue, it would benefit both him and the club if we offered support, not ship him out.

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What he actually said was that nothing was showing up on the scans. You can sill be in pain and therefore still physically injured without a muscle tear or a ruptured ligament or a broken bone showing up on a scan. Our bodies are complicated mechanisms and just because a scan can't reveal the nature of an injury, it doesn't mean it's not present.

Also, it's a number of months since Johnson said this. Williams has since started games and been used as a substitute. He's then been declared injured again, presumably because he's picked up a new injury or suffered a recurrence of his old one.

It's far from clear to me that there's nothing wrong with him.

 

Are you his doctor?

Must be.

 

Bloody hell we really need to get back to losing ways soon if our great moaners are reduced to clutching at straws with 2 page threads kicking off about a player that either is or isn't injured!

 

^^^this!

all speculation, no other bad news,

so some go well out of their way to find something to moan about / knock the club about.

FFS

why!!!???

 

He was injured when we signed him with a groin injury which he has since done again . He had a hernia which then got pubic synthesis which is inflammation of the pubic bone. As well as struggling to get over this physically he also wasn't strong mentally. He now seems to be back to square one again.

The transfer committee didn't do great with him after the good signings of Winnall, Hourihane , Scowen , Watkins and Mawson .

They made the big school boy error of signing a crock who couldn't prove his fitness . Shame as they've made some decent signings but he was the big money signing of the close season and he's been a flop.

I don't think he'll ever get back to being 100% , there's something not quite right and he's got big confidence issues. Hes got another year left on his deal so they'll probably stick with him but he's trying the club's patience I'd have thought.

 

Yes he did. He said he has issues with his groin.

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It's a football club though not a charity , Dale Jennings obviously has some kind of issue where there is nothing wrong physically apart from he can't stop eating. Should we have stood by him and got him counselling until his contract ended . These players are rich enough to pay for their own help. It's a shame he isn't right mentally and physically but the club isn't rich enough to keep paying players a couple of grand a week to not play any games.

Sometimes tough decisions need to be made.

 

Players get injured some more often than others. Some are 'brave' and decimate their bodies after playing some don't want to take the risk. I like Ryan and reman convinced he will do well for us.

 

So we sign him to a contract when he is injured, now we try to cut him loose because he hasn't got over the injury we knew about when we entered into the contract and for the duration signed up? It seems to me it's our fault that we took this contract on and as such have the liabilities to handle, irrespective of the background. Williams isn't the cause of this the due diligence and in BFC taking it on is.

But I guess taking some people's views and the same logic we should be cancelling Ady White's contract if he is declared long term injured and also Jak McCourt. After all we are are professional club and can't afford people to get injured under our watch can we