Pound has dropped in value

Absolutely. The Eurozone CANNOT and WILL NOT last in spite of Merckel, Tusk and that arrogant fool Junckers talking tough. A single currency with diverse economies having no control over interest rates with no real help possible from the ECB is not possible. They can only keep kicking that can so far before they come to the dead end and then what...

Dont argue with Tyrone and all the Economic experts who support the Left. They obviously studied JM Keynes and M Friedman economics and know all there is to know about Micro and Macro Economics. Oh!! hang on!....

 

Ni I'm cross referencing to negative impact it's going to have against the north if England. Particularly this town. Whose main economic contributor in recent years have been the EU


Too many people chose to a vote that supported the wealthy in the Thames Valley rather the supporting the people of the dearne Valley

 

Re: I reckon there will a last minute twist to this tale

The British public had no say when it came to the original EU simple trading bloc becoming a political organisation hell bent on Federalisation so why do you think the public will have any right in determining the terms of exit?? The original vote when joining was to join or don't join. No say then , no say now!

 

I moved to Korea in January 2009 and a million Korea Won was 400 quid. It was 560 in May this year and 600 immediately following the Brexit vote in June.

700 quid per million now. Laughing every time I send cash back.

 

Irrespective of the economic picture, this week has seen firms being asked to list foreign workers by Amber Rudd, Jeremy Hunt scrambling to expel foreign doctors, Liam Fox describing 3m human beings as a "bargaining card" & our PM effectively saying that hatred of immigrants is understandable? Personally, I think this has been the most chilling week in my 52 years living in this country.

 

Re: I reckon there will a last minute twist to this tale

By your own admission tou dont lice in the UK

 

What part of NET contributor to the EU do you not understand. You are confusing distribution of wealth with the effect overall of Brexit on actual funding available. Your argument of unequal distribution is completely valid and the shorfall of funding from UK 'London/SE centric' government to the North is nothing short of a National disgrace and has been masked by subsidies (in effect that is what they are) from the EU. bera in mind however it was OUR money paid to the EU ferom which they take a sizeable cut and then give us some back.

Brexit is not the culprit it is the UK Government. IF and (...hang on I have just seen a squadron of pigs flying over.....) only if, Theresa May is true to her word and will lead a Government that supports the Northern Powerhouse and more fairly distributes the wealth she would actually have MORE money at her disposal as we would no longer be funding projects in Spain, Italy French Farmers etc. etc.

Final point. Many examples of unequal funding (say amount per pupil allocated to schools) were less about geographic location and more about the political map regarding local and regional LEAs.

 

if only half the folk who voted out had realised this.

 

Your obsession with racism in every corner is getting a bit tiresome.

'Effectively saying' ?? Wher has she said that or is it your biased intepretation?

I am all for migrants with something to offer. Free movement is one thing, genuine refugees also. However, economic migrants arriving at 2000 per week most with no papers (therefore no ability to validate their refugee status - some burn their papers to prevent immediate extradition) , who cannot read, no money and no relevant skillset is a different matter. Pragmatism, not racism comes to the fore. A country like Italy paricularly in the south where they arrive has 50% youth unemployment. Italy is in financial crisis, just had one natural disaster and you accuse people of racism simply because they resent having no job, see their pensions cut, now told they have to work til they are seventy.

You are typical of the Left 'bleeding hearts' blaming Governments for everything and spouting on about rights without mentioning the responsibility of individuals. What about all the criminal activity in Calais? Do you think that behaviour of threatening people and violent actions against car drivers with familie and lorry drivers is in any way justified ? Even if they are asylum seekers/refugees they can claim asylum in France.

Come on then, what is your answer, an open door policy? How many migrants are you taking into your home, clothing them , feeding them giving them an allowance for an indefinite period teaching them English? You don't invite the entire street round for dinner when you have a half empty fridge!!

 

But you have focussed on one single aspect out of context. I thought you blamed most Brexiters on having a racist motive and not thinking about economic implications. Besides, as I said, This side of the channel you get to see first hand the accelerating disintegration of the Eurozone structure.

I believed at the time Brexit would be bad (and not just from the perspective of the shrinking pound) but felt staying in would be like refusing places for my daughter and son in law living in the UK on a Titanic lifeboat. I still think it was the right thing to do but only time will tell.

 

Hi Tecky, sorry to hear about your problems, I guess there are loads of people in Spain in the same position. I don't think the BBC are feeding lies and propaganda - any more than they usually do at least. I know how bad things are in Spain (my sister has lived and worked there since 1979), unemployment in the under 25s is absolutely sky-high, but I've seen news reports on this on the BBC, so it's no secret. What's their motive for the bias that you perceive?

 

Re: I reckon there will a last minute twist to this tale

Never liked lice in the UK or anywhere for that matter. Where did I say that?

Actually, I like the UK having been born and lived there for 60 years. I also like Barnsley having lived there for most of my adult life. However to have the type of retirement I wanted and to help my wife limit the onset of knee joint problems she was starting to have we chose Italy on account of the warmer climate, and the fact we were able to buy and restore a country farmhouse at a price and in a rural location overlooking mountains and close to the sea. We would never have been able to afford anything like it in the UK. The cost of living here is also much lower even given the collapsing pound.

So I DO like the UK but prefer to live here. And before you compare me to economic migrants and call me hypocritical. we support the community, pay taxes, buy goods and services through local businesses etc and have not claimed one cent of benefits, not to mention had all the necessary permits paperwork and had ID cards issued to us.

 

Probably not. A destabilised Western Europe with Nationalist parties gaining power is bad news for everybody including Putin. Unless the EU changes (and with Junckers and Tusk in charge of the Commission it wont) it will drive manyn people towards the Far right, with an increase in Nationalistic fervour Xenophobia and Racism.

 

Winners and losers!! Swings and roundabouts. How do you like Korea then? Thought Italian was hard enough. How do you manage the language or are they all (American) English speakers after the troubles of the 1950s?

 

Thanks for your concern although, as I said, I always had a contingency reserve . I know many who hadn't and like people who overstreched themselves with mortgages in the UK when interest rates went up and had their houses repossessed, some are in a bit of a mess as they cannot sell their properties here and even if they can they often don't have enough to buy in the UK.

BBC are still very pro remain. I am referring to the BBC website (not TV), that we get in Europe which often has different content and slant than the UK website. Many Brexit stories focus on the negatives and even those starting out positive usually have a closing paragraph with the usual However, it could .... it might... it may..... emphasising the negative side etc.

Kuessenberg (political) and Ahmed Kamil (Economics) are particularly biased. They used subliminal images like quoting people (pro Brexit ... one example... May is indicating a Hard Brexit to placate the Rabid pro Brexiters win the party) Rabid is an emotive suggestive wording. There are many other examples on a daily basis where the Doomn scenarios are constantly emphasised and the EU problesm and good news are largely suppressed. The statement for the Nissan UK chairmen writ large on the Main News AND UK news pages about relocating the NE factories whilst other large investments or statement of intent from companies to expand are pushed to either the Economy pages or a small footnote on the UK news page.

Kamal actually makes me wonder if he does in fact know anything about economics given some of the assumptions he makes and conclusions he draws from facts. Either that or he is just a mouthpiece for the Government Remain camp.

 

Maybe the demographic of the average BBC reporter would account for that - London voted remain, the middle classes largely voted remain and younger people certainly voted remain. Are you suggesting that they should sack half their reporters and replace them with Brexiteers?

 

This cannot be right. **** that when is our next Independence Referendum. Not long I hope. Canna stand being run by absolute feckin idiots any longer.

Hopefully the Scots electorate will see sense this time and not swallow the utter **** that gets dished out from London.

HaHa Better together my arse.

This UK sham is done for.

 

Who support the left? What are you on about now?!

 

No absolutely not. Bias is bias. I would just like reporters to report the facts and not then try to express opinions as facts. Editorial columns are the place to do that. When reading an editorial you KNOW you are getting an article expressing the opinion of the editor (or most likely the owner by proxy). If I want to get a spectrum of a political slant on news facts I would read newspapers.

The BBC used to be the place for unbiased, unpoliticised, fact reporting. I know that people argue, and they are right, that OVERALL the BBC probably is reasonably impartial when you look at all the topics it reports on . However, the individuals are NOT impartial on specific subjects and allow their own views to be reflected in their articles and reports. For example, late 20's graduate reporters (often female) often express socialist views, e.g.filming in refugee camps and who ignore the agressive young males in the background and focus solely and often EXCLUSIVELY on the young woman with baby or educated, and often with a degree, family man who is caught in an horrendous situation.

It is important that these cases are highlighted but to balance they should show the other side which is groups of young men, often quite violent with little education, no language skills who even steal from and assault other migrants in the camps. That sort of thing does get some minor coverage but there is a reporting imbalance.

Sorry, I did not want to drag things back to immigration but that is just one clear example of emotive reporting showing only one side of the argument. Remember the image with a row of riot police with shields taken from ground level with the foreground image of a small baby crawling along the ground in front of them and no adult in view. Tell me that wasn't set-up? What parent would allow a child that small to be that close to a line of riot police? BBC showed it though!

 

'British Jobs For British Workers' - so said a Labour PM not so long ago....