Kieffer at Oakwell today.

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    I was told by someone at the club that Kieffer Moore was at Oakwell today and
    doing very light training. Hope this is a good sign and encouraging. Anyone in Kieffer family who saw the fractured skull posting at the weekend must have been upset by that posting and some people need to act a bit more responsibly when making their posts.
     
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    Great news. Isn't there/ wasn't there, a mandatory 2 week rule where a player with a head injury isn't allowed to be selected?
     
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    LiverpoolRed, Feb 12, 2019
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    Was introduced about 4 seasons ago I believe.

    Think there is an FA guideline of how to assess the severity of it and that 6 days is mandatory but could be more depending on the assessment of the trauma.

    It used to be the case all PL players had full head scans at the start of every season, so they could use this as a benchmark for further scans if injured. Not sure how it is now though.
     
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    I’m sure anyone who is related knew far more than anyone on here!
     
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    But it's the spreading of such serious false information into the public domain.
     
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    What serious false information?! The people who were relaying info were doing it in good faith based on info they had been provided with (much the same as the OP of this thread is reporting about Kieffer now) .
    The message was he was being treated for a suspected fractured skull. We’ve hardly had a definitive “this is Kieffers condition “ , have we?

    No one has deliberately given “serious false information”.
     
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    onlyonesteviecooper Well-Known Member

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    I thought we'd been through all this. Honest mistake. Apologies made. Move on.
     
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    great news
     
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    You mean in the same way that the people you're having a pop at were "told by someone at the club" about Kieffer's condition on Saturday?
     
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    I’m not fussed how long he’s out for as long as the lad is ok and there’s nothing untoward in his future health.
     
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    You ask "what serious false information?"

    How about that our player has a fractured skull?

    How serious do you want it?

    There was no qualification to this "fractured skull" statement, despite Shed 131 at the time doing his best to eke out details of how true the "fractured skull" statement might be.

    All Shed 131 got in response from the OP was "unfortunately it's true". Well fortunately it wasn't.

    This is not a situation of "good faith" at all.

    Do you think it's OK for anyone to post anything they hear from anyone else, and post it as "truth"? When it's as serious as this, and when it's not true?
    Are you up for people posting that someone has died, when fortunately it turns out that they're not?

    Perhaps admin ought to be encouraging truth rather than fake news.
     
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    Well if that's what your after there wunt be much written on the BBS, period..
     
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    How do you know he doesn't have a fractured skull? I'm not saying he has, I haven't a clue, but you seem to know he hasn't. How?
     
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    It’s not though is it is news filtered down from sources which is quite clearly going to be distorted.. for ppl on here to start throwing around that Moore had a fractured skull with little to no proof is ridiculous and click baiting they should be ashamed of themselves!!
     
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    Those who posted that he had a fractured skull obviously didn't know and still don't, otherwise they wouldn't have been apologising or trying to wangle their way out of what they posted on Saturday.

    Don't you need to know the truth before you post it in such absolute terms? How can you say something is true before you know it to be?

    I know that they didn't know he had a fractured skull. That's my point.
     
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    I love it when we all get along.
     
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    I'm saying that I believe that at the time the people had good reason to believe the information they'd been given was true. They have a track record of providing reasonably safe information. They have never come across as people providing information for their own gratification, and as such I feel the criticism is harsh and folks could cut them some slack (especially in view of an apology already made). I don't know either person concerned so I have nothing to gain from sticking my neck out here, it just strikes me that people are giving them a hard time about something which at worst was a genuine mistake.

    I'm also saying that as yet there is no confirmation on the severity or otherwise of Kieffers conditon, so no one is in a position to say for certain that it's false information. Far from not thinking it's serious I'm urging caution that we may yet find out that he is out for a long time. I hope not. Concussion and head injuries are notoriously complicated. I have a colleague who returned to work for 3 weeks before his fractured skull was confirmed.

    So yes I'd prefer to see the truth, but as yet you don't know the full extent of Kieffer's injury, and neither do I, so hassling people for telling lies is not really needed. We all want the best for Kieffer, just no need for this level of reaction.
     
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    But you're saying he hasnt. As is everyone else in this thread. Nothing has benn released that contradicts what was posted on Saturday.

    People believe because he was discharged from hospital on Sunday that he doesn't have a fractured skull. I've fractured my skull on two occasions. Which may explain a lot. Both times I was admitted to hospital, but neither time was I admitted because I had a fractured skull. I was admitted with concussion. Had I not had concussion I wouldn't have been admitted at all. On both occasions I was discharged the following morning. The treatment for a simple fracture like I had: paracetamol for a few days.
     
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    You don't know that, any more than the people you are criticising did with the opposite.
     
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