Corbyn - A Serious Question

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  1. andytyke

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    They voted him in and kept him there
     
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    Not the same thing, he has far from unanimous support .
    Labour should be pissing all over the Tories but they aren’t
     
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    And May had unanimous support within her party....and so will the next one ???
     
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    Don't think you can blame Corbyn for not pissing all over the Torys its the Blairites in the party who just will not accept him as the leader and refuse to serve in the opposition front bench, Its M.P,s like John Mann who keep voting with the Torys because of his Brexit views and pulling his own party down in every T.V. interview they give. the lies and false accusations put forward by the right-wing press and the people who believe such utter rubbish. Just wait while this idiot Johnson gets into power you'll see the Torys implode, there is the talk of 6 defecting to the Lib-Dems already.
     
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    Fck me is that the best you can do or can't you be arsed again, still waiting.
     
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    In my humble opinion Labour's surprisingly good performance in the 2017 election owed quite a lot to the personal following of many time-served moderate Labour MP's. Many of these are targeted for de-selection by Corbyn's backroom clique. I think that the result of that could come as quite a shock to Milne, McClusky and the others because their hard-left placemen will not carry the popularity of their predecessors, and the media will trounce them as extremists. We have passed peak Corbyn and unless the party returns to a more centrist position it could be out of power for the same length of time as in the 80's and 90's. But heigh-ho! You'll still have your ideological purity to cling to!
     
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    Yes, but....it says so in the papers o_Oo_Oo_O
     
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    Here’s a question. Does anyone ever read the daily mail or any newspaper for that matter when everything is on the internet or live news channels. Nobody I know, without exception, reads a newspaper. The information is already out of date and in true Yorkshire fashion, you have to pay for it. Mental
     
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    Those time served moderate MPs were actively campaigning against Corbyn during the whole election , sending disgraceful letters to constituents undermining and denigrating Corbyn . He did better than expected despite them not because of them . Mary Creagh my MP was total utter disgrace , Blairites are to Labour what the likes of Bill Cash and Rees Mogg are to the Tory’s , a festering sore that infects the whole party
     
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    Quite sad that this is the most divided weakest inept set of ministers in my lifetime.
    How the **** they are still governing is beyond me.
    The opposition have really missed a trick ere.
    This is not a anti Corbyn rant just an opinion of what I'm watching over the last 2 to 3 years
     
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    And that's exactly the sort of attitude that will keep Labour out of power.
     
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    And it might be added that the despised Blair won three general elections, the smallest margin being 60+ seats. But no, let's go more extreme and keep the Tories in.
     
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    Only to Tory Scum, rest of us will be ok ie the many
     
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    They’re busy trying to find some back issues of the Daily Heil/ Express etc. so that they can form an opinion.
     
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    He's said in the past, that if he's ever PM, he will stay at his home and forego 10 Downing Street.
     
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    Corbyn Is not an extremist , get a grip
     
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    Sadly, the first thing many of my work colleagues do after logging in, is read the Daily Mail online.
     
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    Really? When there are umpteen live news channels to watch where you can see things with your own eyes
     
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    Chancellor Hammond has said that if Johnson is declared as PM, he will immediately tender his resignation
    to Theresa May. Rumoured that Gauke will quickly follow suit, plus as you say , there could well be others.

    They don't support leaving without a deal and Hammond has said, he'd even support a vote of
    no confidence in his own party if Johnson tries to force anything that he doesn't agree with
    through the House.

    Pundits are tipping that Johnson's stay as PM, might turn out to be one of the shortest in history.
     
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    But that was pre-Brexit, pre-global recession, pre-rise of Scottish independence and pre-collapse of centre left parties across Europe.

    I don't think a way to try and find a fairer society is particularly extreme. It will require a bolder response than Blairite politics. And if the best case we can put forward is a centrist Labour party could overcome all of the above and limp in to power because of the mess the Tories are in then the argument has already been lost.

    Surely if the Tories are there for the taking then the time is right to unite behind a bold reforming agenda that does find a fairer form of capitalism?
     
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