95% of transfer fees gone...Oh yeah

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  1. Sup

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    And let's not forget that 1/5 of the club is owned by James Cryne who has no such excuse to use.

    Conway
    Lee
    Hung
    Parekh
    Beane

    That's 6 people and he owns one fifth. Is it not logical to say that as he must own more than his fair share of the club that he must take a higher share of the blame? And he's supposedly much a Barnsley fan as you can get.
     
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    Any need for the last line? You certainly don’t speak for me.
     
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    Jake The Red Banned Idiot

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    Didn’t we make about £7million from the three sales, based on the individual fees that were knocking around online?

    So we’ve spent 95% of that on the incoming players? Again, only based on the suggested fees that were knocking around online, it doesn’t sound far off to me.

    But without the accounts and the modern age of undisclosed fees, we can’t be certain how much we got for our departed players and nor can we be sure how much we paid out for the new influx.

    It’s guesswork and as such isn’t something I will be getting irate about.
     
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    What about the comment in August that there was money left over for January signings?

    5% doesn't get you much and they've already said all other income has been spent and they won't be putting their own money in
     
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    Jake The Red Banned Idiot

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    I don’t recall a comment about January in August. I’ve slept a lot since then in fairness. Do you have a link to that and a link to them saying they won’t put in their own money?
     
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    It's not logical as 20% is not enough to win votes. Assuming all.the other shareholders are against his position.
     
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    Depends on your view I guess. Letting a club pay in instalments is like giving credit, so you'd expect and" extra charge or higher transfer fee to take this into account, whereas if we payed in full the player might be cheaper as their is no credit.

    Also, for ease of maths, say combined sales were £9m and all on 3 year deals, then the club has £3m of money coming in in the summer of 2020 and 2021, with no transfer fees offset against - so in essence this is money that can be budgeted for to be spent on transfers.

    Again, no proof of this being the case, just a speculative theory.
     
  8. Dan

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    Its really very rare for a club to pay up front and is generally a sign of distress for the selling club.
     
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    My opinion, not an attempt to speak for you. Whoever you are.
     
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    It's not xenophobia, it's reality, they don't have the football club or the fans interests at heart.
    We're a cash cow for them.
     
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    Nobody is disputing that. The problem is that you are connecting that fact to them being ‘forrin’. I can see you’re not going to get this so let’s call it a day.
     
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    Perhaps an inappropriate reference on my behalf, which I have removed from my initial post. Of course their nationality isn't important in principle of running a business but there's no way they can share the sentiment or enthusiasm for the club in the same way as previous owners.
     
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    So to fit your hypothesis, we get all our transfer fees in installments. While we pay all ours up front..yeah right
    And the six million is Sky money and does not include STs
    Not even a good try that, to cover anyone's tracks....
     
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    Where they are from is not the point. What is that they are not football fans who are loyal to our club or any other for that matter. They are a business enterprise who see an opportunity to make money .....and that's it.! Do you think they would have invested in our club if it had been losing money? They don't understand how football fans feel or how head coaches feel when they see their better players sold off to rival teams. The fans will however vote with their feet and next season season ticket sales will slump accordingly unless the board change their plan. The plan being buy cheap , sell if offer comes along and if the side deteriorates then tough ****.
     
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    Well you did say,

    Hardly a definition of smart, more xenophobic. And for the record there's plenty of clubs run by non' foreign unts' who are no different. Mike Ashley to name but one...
     
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    My remark was foolish and has since been edited. That wasn't the point of the post but it seems to have become the focal point.
     
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    It's sad that more fans didn't ask questions at the time of the takeover. Bit late now. Anyhow, no need to be despondent. They've played pretty well with some rank episodes of bad defending ruining otherwise good performances against decent teams. It's not like we're been hammered every week. Plenty of questions still for them to answer.
     
  19. Dan

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    I've just had a look online to see if there is much guidance on the transfer fees in.

    Undisclosed obviously makes it very difficult but there are a few references here and there, but obviously we cant know the accuracy. There was one reference that Andersen was £900k. Which if true, our recruitment guys absolutely need their bumps feeling!

    I reckon, being pretty aggressive with transfer fee estimates (so i'd hope we've spent much less than this), we're in the realms of about £6m outgoing. And thats assuming Wilks, Thomas and Chaplin were all 7 figure fees.

    That would imply our incomings were only about £6.3m across the 3 players. Loosely, I though Lindsay was though to be £2.25m, Pinnock £3m and then doubt about Moore and it being £3-4m.

    If we take the lower of that fee range, that's still £8.25m.

    So lets say a gap of £2m. If the 95% is true... we're then considering huge signing on bonuses and agents fees.

    As i've said before, this shows how intensive and not especially lucrative this approach is. Not all those players are going to get good resale values, some none, some might be paid off, and some nominal. But then you've got to improve the squad too.

    If you look at Collins and Radlinger, they were both free. Yet you could argue, they've been the two players who have settled best and show potential resale value so far.
     
  20. Dan

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    I was questioning from day 1. Less than now, of course, but I was curious what the ownership structure was and why they'd bought us. The questions have just gotten bigger and bigger as statements don't match, references to Nice then don't equate to pure truth as first thought and actions and choices made here seem crazier and crazier.

    And lets be honest... if on day one, or in the build up, we'd asked lots of questions, we wouldn't have gotten answers and they'd still have completed the purchase.
     

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