One thing that concerns me

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  1. thetykester

    thetykester Well-Known Member

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    When things start to get relaxed & flights start up again, are all the grounded planes being looked after/maintained correctly?. Many flight firms are in dire straights at the moment & I ask the question, will all the planes be 100% ready for take off?

    Of course I could be talking complete & utter ***** but it is a concern.

    Sorry meant to put this link on, forgot


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-52780289
     
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    Tonjytyke Well-Known Member

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    It can be a problem. When both our engines failed on the way to Spain, Mrs Tonjy said, “Just our luck, we could be up here all bloody day now!”
     
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    Planes sit idle all the time and there are set procedures and checks that have to be done before they can fly. I read somewhere that an Airbus a320 takes around 3 days to get ready to fly again after it's been parked up for so long. And it took around the sake length of time to store it too. They weren't simply parked up and left they were prepared and had things drained and covered.

    The plane that crashed in Pakistan wasn't on its first flight either I'm not sure if it had been in storage previously but it had flown 4 flights in the last few days
     
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    one thing I believe, is that the tourist trade in UK will boom.People might be a bit wary of going overseas for a good while.
     
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    The problem is though. When will it? While offices are allowed to pen crammed full of people and ASOS is allowed to open crammed full of workers the cafes and restaurants at brid have been specifically banned from opening. Presumably because as we all know it's impossible to pick up a table and move it
     
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    I remember going to Yugoslavia in the 80's and we went on an Istrian Airlines DC9, the type with the engines at the back of the fuselage... one of the engines was rattling as we got on.... I daren't mention it to my missus... I just prayed silently all the way there.
     
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    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

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    Fortunately the dc9 doesn't fly anymore. It was a death trap and I honestly do not know how it was a allowed to fly
     
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    thetykester Well-Known Member

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    Not this many for this amount of time, I'm concerned mainly about the financial constraints on companies and maybe their over willingness to get them back up & flying.
     
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    I tried to do an aeroplane joke once.
    It didn’t take off. Or went straight over their heads.

    Al get mi coit.
     
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    I'm a bit of a fan of Air Crash Investigation on Nat Geographic. I saw one about a plane that had been stood and forget to put the cover on the device that measures air flow and in term calculate the air speed. They believe some bugs got in and blocked it. The false reading were a major factor in the crash.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birgenair_Flight_301

    Ultimately I wouldn't be scared about getting back on a plane as the industry is very well regulated. But any airlines who are struggling financially and cutting costs and staff could be more vulnerable to poor maintenance practices.
     
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    I watched that one . Some tube on the front of the plane ...... Think the worst I saw of them was a crash back in the 70s when a bulb failed in the landing gear switch so they did nt know if it was down or not . In the pilots distraction to find out they were slowly loosing altitude until the inevitable . Some of the crashes are over the silliest thing with sadly grave consequences .
     
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    As for going on holiday at the moment, I'd be more concerned about being in a metal container with recirculated air rather than the risk of contracting the virus in a holiday destination.
     
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    Redstone Well-Known Member

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    Yes I remember that one too they crashed into the everglades didn't they? A crash traced back to the failure on a single bulb. Amazing how many could be averted simply by a different decision by the flight crew.
     
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    Those Pitot Tubes, as I believe they are called, have been the cause of many accidents. Even quite recently.

    I'm no expert, but one would think in this day and age of modern technology, that we would not have to rely on a tube with an open end to feed the pilots such important information.
     
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    Redstone Well-Known Member

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    Was it faulty readings that were causing the problems with the 737 max and causing the computer to change the "angle of attack" to avoid a stall and essentially crash the plane.
     
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    I believe so. I believe It was also compounded by not having a backup reading, i.e. only one input source.

    The French Airbus that went down on the way back from South America a few years ago was caused by a tube malfunction too.
     
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    It was the initial issue, but the co-pilot's utter incompetence was the major cause. The plane came close to stalling and the stick shaker went off. Whenever that happens even an amateur pilot would know to put the nose down to avoid a stall. Instead he pulled the nose up and put it into a stall. The captain realised what he was doing a couple of minutes later and tried to fix it but they'd lost too much altitude and it was unrecoverable.
     
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    True story, I was once on a flight from Vancouver and the pilot announced before takeoff that one of the engines wasn’t working, but that we would be taking off anyway and hoping it starts up mid flight.

    Not what you want to hear before a 14 hour flight.
     
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    Yes I saw that one too now you went through it, it's the case in most crashes that human error is a common factor. Usually pilot or maintenance personnel.
     
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    Have you seen the one where the pilot let his son fly the plane?
     

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