This latest police shooting

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  1. BarnsleyReds

    BarnsleyReds Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely indefensible. 7 times in the back.


     
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    Unfortunate accident.
     
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    BarnsleyReds Well-Known Member

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    Somehow the guy is still alive. Possible paralysis, but alive.

    The officer should still rot away in jail for the rest of his life.
     
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    To me what that illustrates, more than any systemic racism (which undeniably exists but I'm not sure can necessarily be asserted here) is how stupid and dangerous their gun laws are.

    They shot him on the back, but at the same time if someone is going for their glove box despite you pulling a gun and telling them not to then you can see why the police get twitchy. Of course they shouldn't have shot him, but if there wasn't widespread gun ownership then there would be no possibility of reasonable excuse for the police shooting him.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not an "all lives matter" type as you can see from my loony lefty posting history. I'm just not sure this is racism.
     
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    It’s an assassination
     
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    Problem is that while you can look at each incident in isolation and say this one is not racist the numbers of black men being shot tells us it’s racism
    https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793
     
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    Farnham_Red Administrator Staff Member Admin

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    Im not so sure on this one - the guy knows the police have a gun on him but with the officer right behind him he gets in the car and goes for the glove box - in the USA of course the officer is going to shoot he has no idea if he is going to pull a gun on him - this almost looks like an attempted suicide by cop
     
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    I agree. There is systemic racism which results in the unjustifiable deaths of black people at the hands of the police, but that doesn't mean that each individual incidence of a black person dying as a result of the police is necessarily due to racism.
     
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    Non lethal force should/could have been used as soon as he walked away from them. Can't understand why they allowed him to walk all the way around the vehicle before deciding to do something.
     
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    Was just about to post the same thing.
    USA is like the wild west. There's no layering of approach, it's just option one pull the trigger. The place is f***ed and will continue to be so while the gun lobby holds sway.
     
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    Taser surely would have been the most appropriate action. They had enough time to stop him reaching the car door knowing children were inside. Its absolutely ridiculous that this was allowed to happen. Our armed officers carry both gun and taser.
     
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    If you really, really need to shoot.... shoot him in the leg or something from that range just to drop him, not seven rounds into his back. Absolutely disgusting.
     
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    Another one here
     
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    why are the police there in the first place?
     
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    Iv no idea what the situation was but I would even say a taser would be extreme unless they felt in immediate danger. There were 3 officers, all wielding a firearm. Why not just restrain and calm the situation. Loss of control from the officers by the looks.
     
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    Absolutely indefensible, not to mention that doing this in the current climate means he must be either arrogant beyond belief or as thick as pig ****, attempted murder, has to be..
     
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    There's always a challenge to statistics. In this one, for example, do those stats take in to account the levels of poverty in the US by race and the neighbourhoods where crime rates are high and what the demographic is in those areas?

    I don't know the answers, and I'm not picking a side at all, but you're almost twice as likely to be killed by a policeman if you're black than if you're white in that study. But isn't there a higher mix of gun related crime associated with black people over white? So as much as the stats tell one story, there's other ways to interpret the data.
     
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    Have you seen the video of where police use a taser on someone and as he falls to the ground he grabs their gun, holds them at gunpoint to sit on the side of the road, and then drives off in his car. Mental
     
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    There was a fight between two women, which the guy who was shot broke up, from what I can gather.

    Why he went for his glove box I don’t know. People tend not to think straight though in high pressure situations. Trained police should be able to think straight.
     
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    I thought you said he was still alive?
     

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