Reality Check

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  1. Red

    Red Rain Well-Known Member

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    The £100m is what it would cost us to sign a team capable of playing in the Premier League, their wages and the wages of the people that would have to be added to our infrastructure.
     
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    Redstar Well-Known Member

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    But it isn't using the money to start the process again!

    And what an incredibly negative post.
     
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    I'm up for it. Colin Tizzards got one running tomorrow at Taunton, Leg Lock Luke. Just sold house on webuyanyhouse.com, flogged car on wewanttobuytheecar and currently accepting bids on my collection of stuffed ferrets on Ferret auction site feBay. The lots going on. I hope it dunt turn out to be a Sad Ken situation ....
     
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    I will update how I feel at approx 4:25 tomorrow
     
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    Redstar Well-Known Member

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    Have Burnley spent owt like that?
     
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    This will be conveniently ignored.
     
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    Conan Troutman Well-Known Member

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    The OP has plucked an arbitrary figure out of thin air but, as he does on many occasions, he will present it as fact to support his logic.
     
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    Have you forgotten that Winnall and Hourihane both had a lot to learn and struggled at times in their first season. There's too much rebuilding to do all at once and each and every one will no doubt be a work in progress. These players should be in the team now, making their mistakes when it doesn't matter as much.
     
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    Redstar Well-Known Member

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    The issue is we just don't have the replacements
     
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    pontyender Well-Known Member

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    That's what I'm saying. The replacements should have been signed in January.
     
  11. Ors

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    I feel I must caution against this course of action, Getrammellon. Mr Tizzard has had no winners from 36 runners over the last 14 days and drew a blank at the Cheltenham Festival. In addition, Timeform and Racing Post Ratings have four horses rated as level or ahead of Leg Lock Luke, who finished last of three finishers on his last outing, beaten 30 lengths. One might add that todays ground at Taunton will be the fastest he has run on and is by no means certain to suit the horse, his sire Indian River(Fr) having run on very soft or heavy on all of his four career outings. The Champion Jockey is booked for Mr Vaughan's Knight's Reward and might better repay a modest each way investment at the current prices. In truth though, this is such a poor race that I came to the conclusion that none of the seven runners were capable of winning it!
     
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    Red Rain, I feel you are avoiding the point in this thread. Accepting the general business sense of your argument in normal times, this was a one-off situation. Take the money we got for Bree, Conor and Winnowl out of the equation and we are still £12M to the good this season. Enough to repay Mr Cryne, purchase some more 'seedcorn' players to develop and still have some left over to buy Whitey a new digital camera.

    Whether we would or wouldn't have made the playoffs is debatable. What is not is that we would certainly have had a better chance. But to me, more important than that is that we would have seen better, more entertaining football for the remainder of this season, and seen how this squad's ultimate destiny played out. The situation we've had is like going to see a play with Mark Rylance or Roger Allam performing, only to be replaced at the interval by a bit part actor from Emmerdale.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up, unfortunately though the bet is now on. £136 000 Win @ 15/8. I'm fairly confident though as it was a tip from Tattoed John who spends nearly all his spare time in the Bookies so his experience must invaluable.

    It's also number 5, my favourite number and the jockey is called Tom O'Brien which is a similar name to my favourite ever BFC - Brendan O'Connell.
     
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    Red Rain Well-Known Member

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    I did not say that you would like what I post, hence the title.
     
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    Red Rain Well-Known Member

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    To be honest, I do not know what Burnley spent. What I have done is look at the players that we had on 1 January and ask myself the question, "Is he good enough to play in the Premier League". Even the players we sold at that date were not sold to teams playing in the Premier League. Rather than ask me what Burnley did, why not ask yourself that self same question.
     
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    Where do you get the figure of £7m for hourihane and winnall?
     
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    When we got promoted to the Premiership most pundits would have had us as an outside chance and unlikely to go up. We didn't flog half the team in fact we strengthened it. #justsaying.
     
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    You may have £12m washing around in your bank account, I do not know, but say for 1 minute that you have. You also have a portfolio of investments that you know will be worth nothing in 6 months, but out of the blue, somebody offers you £7m for that portfolio. Do you say, no thanks, I have quite enough money to be going on with, or do you rip his arm out of its socket. In summary, it does not matter how much money you have. A good deal is a good deal.

    I guess it all depends on what you think our chances of promotion were, and whether you are a betting man, or not. You will know from past conversations that I am conservative (with a small c) in nature. I am a thinker, an analyst, not a risk taker. I would say that is the right way to be when running a business. You would probably counter that you must risk in order to win. John Dennis took that sort of gamble and it very nearly killed the club. The club is too valuable to me to take risks with its future. I would rather see it continue to jolly along rather than place everything on RED and spin the wheel. Those who argue differently either do not know the risks, or they are prepared to take a gamble that I am not. Reality Check is about running the club for the long term. It is not about a one off gamble.
     
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    We would have had better results, finished higher in the table, had a happier fanbase, sold more shirts for next season, sold more season tickets, sold more advertising space and been able to attract better players in the summer
     
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    I would be interested in your numbers. Rough figures will do.

    How many more season tickets do we have to sell in order to reach £7m.
    How many more shirts do we have to sell (net profit rather than selling price) in order to reach £7m.
    How much more advertising space do we have to sell in order to reach £7m.
     

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