Really do not see why Hemsworth Tyke gets so much abuse...

..And abuse it is. Constantly. If people have an opinion about what he posts then they should discuss the issue and not slag him off personally. Discussion is not telling him he is a moron or deluded.If they do not want to debate then they should accept his right to voice his opinion whatever it is without rude, insulting remarks as a retort. I say again, whatever his opinion is. People should keep quiet if they have no counter argument. It's called being civilised. As far as I can see he makes no racist/sexist/homophobic language or anything that is a defammatory insult to any individual. (discussion of players' negative merits in my opinion is not defammatory). He merely states his views. The trouble with this board in my opinion is that people jump on bandwagons and if alternative voices don't adhere to the script then they are castigated and abused for it. So what if Hemsworth Tyke criticises Roberts? So what? If he wants to criticise let him do so. Roberts is not a footballing God who is beyond criticism. Neither is Heckingbottom. Neither was Mawson, neither was Hourihane. Neither was Hassell in recent years. If people sound off they should not be hammered down. This is a forum for discussion not a beer hall for illiterate/pig-headed/intolerant people to spout abuse. If you insult other people on here you should not be posting at all as you have nothing to say. At least HT does.
I know some will say HT has a history of spouting 'controversial' stuff regarding the team but that's irrelevant to me. If he ever spouts something I take offence to or severely disagree with regarding his posts on here I will respond in a measured way.
Goodnight and may your God go with you.

 

A lot of his posts are for effect.

There is only so many times admin can draw a line in the sand for him.

 

Everyone posts for effect otherwise there would be no point posting so that argument is irrelevent. As for Admin I'm sure they will monitor all posts and intervene if necessary. As far as I'm aware HT has not done anything to compromise his position on here, hence there are no sand lines. He's done nothing wrong. The people who abuse others are the ones who should be hauled up by Admin...

 

I can't tell whether this is a fishing thread or whether you just can't see how intentional HTs wind ups often are. In defending him you are putting yourself in a very small minority - though if he does ever get abuse that crosses the line then I would hope the perpetrators are invited to leave the forum for a while.

There was a thread the other day where we were on about the England cricket side. No abuse, his opinion and mine about what the team needs.

Great. We didn't 100% agree but that's what this is for. I thought he was crackers for saying they are one player short of perfection - but it's an opinion he's entitled to.

What was an issue though is his insistence that cricket only got good when sky bought all the coverage, that nobody watched it before that. He appears to think football and cricket were invented by BSkyB.

He also annoys regularly on any subject by portraying his opinion as gospel truth, refusing to even acknowledge anyone else's views, going to great lengths to try and prove them wrong but then doing a swift disappearing act when he's proved wrong himself.

It has been pointed out that Phil may have some kind of disorder on the autism spectrum, perhaps a personality disorder; if he does that is his business and by no means should it stop him doing whatever he likes. He's an adult and I'm no medical pro and don't involve myself in such speculation. I'm in no position to offer opinion on that.

But he claims to be shy (in person I hear he is) and wants to avoid attention, then dangles an inflammatory thread to garner reaction. It isn't healthy whether he has a condition or not.

So if he chooses to make such posts to try and wind folk up, then people have the right to respond and in whatever way they choose. Foul language and personal abuse shouldn't come into it and in the main I don't think too many go too far, but calling some of his threads for what they are is part and parcel.

The shame of it is that he has the capacity to be massively insightful and gives good info on such as the u23s and u18s, I can't get to their games with work and so on, and he has in the past given what look to be well balanced and written feedback on performances and potential first team players. I've told him as much and thanked him on such posts. I've nothing personal against the lad at all, if he's talking ***** I'll call it out, if he winds me up I'll say, but if he offers helpful opinions on something I can't see myself then I take it on board and thank him for taking the time to update us.

The problem is these are getting fewer and fewer, and more and more posts seem to just want to antagonise. He doesn't even plead that it's not intentional anymore.

To be honest whilst he can spoil a thread or seven here and there, if he does have some kind of medical or personality disorder, or even if he hasn't and he just needs a bit of attention of this kind, if it helps him get through the day I can cope with it. Doesn't affect my life massively in any way.

What I will say though is I think the last thing he needs is a thread he's not even part of drawing more attention to him.

I'm not even sure he'd appreciate the backing you are offering, I'm sure in good faith, but I honestly think he wants, maybe needs the responses he gets.

 

He's done nothing wrong?

 

He generally identifies a topic, considers what the consensus on said topic is and then adopts the opposite of that. A little bit of research later to create a sense of knowledgeability and he's ready to post.

I like him.

 

Really? I'd say more:

He generally identifies a topic, assesses what the consensus is - then adopts the absolute and complete opposite view even if it defies all logic, then goes to great length by researching vapid stats online to try and prove himself right even when half the time he probably doesn't even think it himself.

I don't dislike him, don't know him really, but I do think he'll be enjoying this as and when he reads the thread

 

He triggers a debate or chases a response , he thinks he's an expert on all sports from watching sky sports , and when proven wrong in a debate he disappears .

 

I didn't realise he was banned again , just read a bit of the Birmingham thread

 

You should also ask why so many regular posters don't come on her very much.

 

Here we go, the "bring him back" brigade are here. He deserves everything he gets.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not in the 'bring him back brigade'- he is professional stirrer of the brown stuff. Particularly when people present logical arguments that he ignores.

I like to see people recognise others points of view during debate and even - shock horror- maybe concede a point if someone makes a better one.

My 'I like him' comment was half tongue in cheek and half true because he doesn't wind me up when I read the bobbins he generally posts.

 

I don't think he should be banned because I find it funny but he knows what he's doing & if you go any forum & start slating club legends you'll get abuse & sworn at.

If you go on a Man Utd forum & start slating Best, Charlton, Cantona, Giggs, Scholes etc you'll get abused & it's the exact same if you come on a Barnsley forum & lay in to Hassell, Hourihane, Roberts etc

 

I've never understood why folk say he gives good info about the academy when he has agenda's against half the first team.

How do you know he's not got the same against the young lads?

 

Is he banned?

 

Yes. I must say I think the ban is harsh. I do think some of his posts are absolutely ludicrous, however I can't see what's he's done to seriously offend anyone.

 

I honestly don't think he's a wind up merchant.

I just think he has no filter.

Encyclopedic knowledge of stuff that doesn't float many other people's boats, and is always serious about everything.

 

Thereev got banned for a lot less yet some people were happy with that particular banning.

 

The problem has been his 'trolling' which admin (including Gally) have warned him about several times but he's incapable of moderating himself. Eventually the patience of admin was going to snap and to be fair to them I think they've been very patient.

 

Personally, I liked his posts, purely from a humour point of view. He could generate a 6 page thread from some daft one liner which keeps me entertained while the Mrs is watching Emmerdale Farm or whatever.
Hope this doesn't prompt a Hemsworth based Bobby Sands like hunger strike, or a dirty protest. He may now be sat smearing human faeces on his iPad.