Davies

What if he gets injured in the last 25 minutes, after we have made our customary three substitutions?

 

The goalie is at an advantage all day long in these situations and should have been decisive. Our two defenders should now be feeling bruised from his intervention.

 

Shocking again. The Blackett cross hit Kermogants head four yards out and Dopey was floundering again glued to his line. His distribution was appalling and gives his defence no confidence at all. Needs a new goalkeeper and quick. He is Wales number 4 after all

 

This. Nothing more is needed.

 

The problem with Fryers is, he's not very good.

 

The other problem is he keeps getting picked

 

At the same time all managers choose a goalkeeper and stick to them. Having kept at a lower level consistency breeds confidence. We have a keeper that the manager has faith in and will be picked and a back up who can be called upon in emergency but who 98% of the time will be a substitute. Teams at our financial level will not be paying someone they very rarely intend to play very much. This will be reflected in the ability of the player you don’t really intend to play.

One major point about Davies this season. All Keepers play better with a settled defence who they can trust who’s attributes they know without thinking of them. The cross yesterday would he have had a decision to make if Roberts were in the defence? This season he has played with 6 centre halves a variety of full backs in a constantly changing back 4. It is always going to make any keepers job harder. People need to consider this. Davies has become a scapegoat amongst some people. His clean sheet record is up there with the best we have ever had. His saves last season particularly post January kept us respectable. He has had a dip in form this season mainly in my view due to the constant changes in the back 4. W need to get a settled defence and take it from there. If Yiadom is going we need to sort that out ASAP. Fryers does not look good enough at LB again needs sorting. Barring injury Pinnock and Lindsay need to start every week with a Jackson to challenge when he returns.

 

Seriously defending Davies. Absolutely incredible. The defence doesn't blast it out of play from hand fail to deal with a ball four yards out and is so quiet you never hear him. Not a scapegoat just indecisive and hesitant. And don't give me any good shot stopper nonsense because everyone can do that. He has no presence in that goal whatsoever

 

Glad someone is seeing it and saying if exactly how it is.

So many are in denial about Davies because he was part of the team that got us out of League One.

People refer to him as being the best we could get despite all him being good at is shot stopping. EVERY professional keeper is good at shot stopping. Nick Colgan was one of the best we’ve had at point blank saves but he also wasn’t up to the Championship for the same reasons as Davies. Colgan also dropped afew clangers but no where near the amount Davies makes.

Adam Davies did a brilliant job at Barnsley in League One and he’s a top lad but he’s one more bad mistake away from having the majority doubt him in my opinion and he needs taking out before that happens. The rate he’s costing us points that mistake will come sooner rather than later.

 

You mention L1 last season with a settled defence he was one of our better players.

 

Talk of Townsend signing for Port Vale next week, a few lads were discussing it yesterday.

 

The simple fact is that if an outfield player was underperforming like he is then he would and should be dropped. I don't believe that him wearing number 1 not number 7 should make him immune

 

If we want to go down that route as we have in the past when we felt a goalkeeper was nearing their sell by date we will need to release one or other of Davies and Townsend and go out and buy a replacement. The only time I can genuinely remember us replacing a keeper from within was when Dave Watson came through but he was a rare talent. So I’m guessing to get better than Davies you are looking at a substantial outlay probably 500k to a million plus wages. I think it’s probably more realistic given we need to sign at least 6/7 outfield players and move some on that we get rid of Townsend and get in someone from the spreadsheet to be a more long term challenger/take over from Davies.

 

Maybe I am the only one who saw an absolutely delicious cross? Maybe the defence could have dealt with it better but if a cross goes in like that and a forward is prepared to attack it, then there is always a sniff of a chance. Well played Blackett IMHO.

Think Aylott, Odejayi or Foster ........

In my long Sunday league career I played as a keeper and a centre floorboard for a long time. I know that's not 2nd tier pro football but as a keeper I HATED crosses like that (corners were bread and butter) but as a forward I loved them, mostly cos I knew what was going through the keepers head.

Opinions eh?

 

In the defence of Lindsay, Fryers and Davis it was one hell of a cross from Blackett. He had time and space due to the injury to Yiadom.
Also helped by good movement from a very experienced striker.

I’m not defending Davies’s kicking though as I’ve seen my U13 keepers manage to kick the ball straight more often than not.!
He’s obviously low on confidence and needs competition.

 

It was a brilliant cross. But it’s so easy for Davies to move 6 yards and attempt to catch or punch the ball.

He refuses to come off his line for anything. This isn’t just yesterday this is a long standing problem he has and something he is not developing in real games.

I don’t know how people can want the team to improve but be more than happy to have a keeper who refuses to come out and catch crosses and start off attack’s with efficient and accurate distribution.

Can someone please tell me what attributes Davies has that makes him a Championship quality goalkeeper?

Good shot stopper? On the whole yes.
Commanding? Not at all.
Good distribution? Not at all
Reliable? Not for the whole of 2017.
Good under pressure? No
Error prone? Yes
A leader? No

 

I see a lot in him Chris. Last 2 seasons he's had his poor spell early doors, then gone on to be more than good enough (given our resources and need to swap and change personnel in front of him).

I agree he looks a bit short on confidence this year, and his poor spell has come later and gone on longer, but I personally am glad that we have decided on a #1 and stuck with him. In the long run that will benefit all of us. I think you're a little harsh assessing his attributes given the circumstances. Agree though his kicking leaves a lot to be desired.

Let's remember keepers go on a long time. He is still young and is already up there with our all time clean-sheet keepers. I personally want him long term and look forward to him being a top, top keeper.

 

I’d love him to be a top keeper but all I see is a player who’s development has stalled. I think his natural level is League One.

Keepers are so much more than just shot stoppers these days and the higher up you go the more you’ll find demanded from them.

Obviously Pep wants the best ALL ROUND keeper he can get and so banished Hart who is a good shot stopper and commanding but mistake prone and distribution is not his strong point. Ederson is brilliant and his all round game is something all keepers who want to progress high up the leagues should try to emulate.

I’m not expecting Ederson but what I would like is a brilliant shot stopper who has ‘good’ command and is reliable. Distribution I would settle for ‘okay’ as we’re not going to get the lot.

If Davies actually attempted to command his box he might be good at it and add something else to his game therefore becoming a better goal keeper. I could accept his distribution if he could at least deal with corners/crosses.

 

Chelsea's first looked like a mirror image. He's sh!te that Butland, isn't he? And them fcukwits on MOTD having the temerity to blame the defenders.

Absolutely no excuse for defenders not doing their job whether Davies comes or not. Maybe he should but neither would be bruised if he had because they weren't goal-side. Compare and contrast with identical situation in first half when Mannone doesn't come but full back gets tight and makes it more difficult for Barnes.