O/T Donald Trump

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  1. DEETEE

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    Who trump or obama
     
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    The BBC are waging a real campaign against Trump
     
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    Do you think the de unionisation of teachers is the reason Trump doesn’t like him or the colour of his skin?
     
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    I'm sure trump is a racist , but I have also realised that obama and trump s policies are exactly the same(and yes, deportations went up under obama). I'm sure that even if trump was impeached , whoever comes in will be just as bad . it's what you would call 1 party rule , the dems/republicans are one of the same .
     
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    Hmmm so you'd back a candidate from a party funded by the Kochs and Mercers.
     
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    To think that policies are the same is naive. Some are similar many are different. There is the argument that the military industrial complex runs America. Look at policies on taxation not the same.
     
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    The democrats helped vote in a 80 billion increace in the military budget last year (including Elizabeth Warren , seen as a moderate liberal of the party) . They also voted for trumps tax cuts and net neutrality . As you see , 1 party rule .
     
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    He's the perfect example of a narcissist.
     
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    His parents were both members if the Ku Klux Klan weren't they ?

    If you read the reports correctly, Trump is very close to being indicted.
    There are some amazing threads on Twitter from high standing lawyer Seth Abrahams who carefully unpicks, tweet by tweet what is happening with the Mueller investigation currently investigating Trump and whether or not he colluded with Russia.
    The whole Trump Team are implicated including his son in law Jared Kushner.

    It's mind blowing reading.
    Just a matter of time before he's indicted it seems.

    The man is ill.
    Drinks only Coke and eats only junk food, yet medically he is in great health we are told !
    Has no attention span, sits watching reel after reel from three TVs, starts "work at 11am, barely reads any documentation...

    All his tweets coincide with what he's just watched on Fox News apparently, the one station that backs his presidency !

    Can't think in my lifetime, I've ever seen someone so unfit for a presidential role as Trump.
    " My nuclear button is bigger than yours ! "
    Would love to read Michael Wolff's book "Fire and Fury" , waiting for it to drop in price.

    And yes, agree with Jimmy Cricket, he's an out and out racist, there are innumerable instances that give weight to this belief.
     
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    Do you think policies on health care are exactly the same
     
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    Where to start with this.....
     
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    Having followed US politics extremely closely for 18 months and viewed it through all sides of the american media, including Fox, I'd say the BBC has been very objective and, on occasion, donned very soft kid gloves.
    When you view the hideous things he is doing to that country, repealing all the environmental, fiscal and health and safety protections Obama was able to put in place it beggars belief.
    I'm sure any self respecting news organisation will try to be balanced in their coverage but there is a point where you have to report the truth and where Trump is concerned the truth of what he does is often indefensible.
     
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    So Trump isn’t trying to reverse ObamaCare that will leave up to 25m people uninsured? That’s not a difference to you? If not it’s time to read up. People who don’t recognise that Trump is outside the the binary politics off the US are naive at best and dangerous at worst.

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...association-health-plans-short-term-insurance

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ould-be-impact-if-affordable-care-act-repeal/
     
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    Obama care is effectively Romney care , or a right wing healthcare plan designed by the insurance companies to suit them . Obama merely copied and pasted it when he got into office . Sure , its better than nothing but it isnt like a single payer system the rest of the developed world enjoys . The single payer system was proposed by bernie Sanders in last year's democrat nominee runoff , but the democrats made sure Bernie never got a look in and backed Hilary instead (as seen in the hacked Dnc emails ). Again , I'm not saying trumps great , he isn't , but you have to look at how bad things are in the US politically that allowed trump to take the white house .
     
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    Trump got elected because a significant proportion of Americans are worthless racists who don’t care about anything other than racism. Trump is outside the tent as is Bernie Saunders who in an sane body politic would be President.
     
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    Exactly jc . And you have to question why every time a U.S. politician comes along with good idea s to improve citizens lives he gets shoehorned out . To give you an example of what's wrong , the Wal-Mart family are worth around 80 billion , the workers at each Wal-Mart store claim on average 1.3 million dollars per year in food stamps because there so poorly paid ( that's 1.3 million per store ) . When a country spends 40 years doing trickle down economics don't be shocked when someone like Donald trump ends up in charge .
     
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    I'm currently editing it for the charity I volunteer at that makes books accessible for those with visual impairments (incl. dyslexia). I've read two thirds of it so far and it's not that great to be honest. All the interesting stuff has already been reported by the papers and it's more about the people around him than him. It will be available to read for free on the national accessible library's website in a week or so for those who are visually impaired. I'm not sure if that is relevant to you or anyone else on here but the site has over 8000 books and covers a range of fiction and non-fiction for both children and adults.

    http://www.accessiblelibrary.org.uk/
     
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    No, it wouldn't include me thanks Jamdrop but that's a great thing that you're doing there.
    I will read it for myself, not prepared to pay £14, the current asking price.
     
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    I’ve read it and I agree. Decent journalism but not much to learn that hasn’t been widely reported.
     

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