George Groves Versus Chris Eubank Jnr

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  1. onlyonesteviecooper

    onlyonesteviecooper Well-Known Member

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    I agree with Ripper should be no way near a pay per view fight. And they aint world class boxers either, regardless of a world title, its just down to raising the most money by duping the public and building up the fight. We live in a world of over the top boxing hype. Mainly led by Sky and that Hearn fella. If theyre struggling to sell tickets they just get one of the fighters to chuck water on the other at a press conference or make a derogatory remark about his mum. Its so predictable. I was duped into thinking the fight between the chamberlain and okolie from London a couple a weeks ago would be worth watching 'they dont like each other you know', it was absolutley dog toffee, shockingly bad, but we still had to listen to the sky bandwagon afterwards telling me it was a great fight. Weve got Amir Khan fighting soon, I bet thats pay per view, theyd have to pay me to watch that horseshit. Maybe Eddie Hearn could get Amir to chuck some water on his opponent at a press conference, that will help sell tickets. Domt get nme wrong there are some fantastic boxers who deserve all the accolades but there are shitloads of average at best fighters earning far more than their ability should allow due to wrestling type hype.
     
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    Why? There are very strict regulations in place, the medical side has improved significantly and most importantly both boxers are there through choice.
     
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    There's still four, it's for the WBA Super title, George Groves is world champion.
     
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    Agree about the Amir Khan water episode that was pathetic & even the British beef fight was as you say 'dog toffee' but your way off on the Groves/Eubank Jr comment - George Groves holds a world title and has fought 3 other times for a world title at super middleweight controversial defeat 1st time round to Carl Froch and a narrow points decision in America to Badou Jack. Groves is technically very good and fights well at range if he's not world level then who is? - Gilberto Ramirez is perhaps the only stand out fighter in that division but Groves is on par with Callum Smith, James DeGale & Anthony Direll. Eubank Jr is one of the most exciting British fighters his speed/work rate is class and power for me is underestimated these 2 styles make for a cracking fight.

    Sky/Hearn do Hype domestic level fights for Payperview which is wrong - greedy fkrs...
     
  5. dreamboy3000

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    Junior has the same power as his dad, in seriously hurting the quality of life of an opponent. If there is one aspect of Junior that's overated, it wouldn't be the power of his punch.
     
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    Not sure how you can conclude Groves isn’t world class, beaten DeGale, beaten Chudinov, lost a very close split decision to a superb champion in Badou Jack & although he got stopped he was well ahead in the first Froch fight & pretty much level in the second before the KO punch.

    When he fights at European level he looks a class above & wins virtually every round like against Murray & Gutknecht.

    That’s not the form of someone who isn’t world class.
     
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    There’s actually 2 close to 50-50 fights on the undercard.

    Lowe - Walsh should be a brilliant fight just not big names.

    In terms of PPV this to me is the 3rd best PPV fight in recent years, only behind Froch - Groves 2 & Klitschko - Joshua.

    Don’t really see Eubank as a puncher, he tends to wear people down through accumulation, only one punch stoppage of any note was his last fight against an unproven opponent.

    If he wins he’ll have to take a lot of punishment, relying on his stamina to wear Groves down.
     
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    That’s just nonsense been spouted by Eubank Sr.

    Any fighter can endanger the quality of life of an opponent if they have a referee who doesn’t do his job properly like in the Eubank - Blackwell fight.

    I could quite easily say Groves hurts the quality of life of opponents as he left Gutknecht in a much worse state than Blackwell but Groves isn’t a scumbag with no morals & doesn’t bring it up to try & gain a psychological edge like Eubank does for his son.

    Both cases just examples of where the ref should’ve ended it 2-3 rounds earlier.
     
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    Agree mate, jr isn't a big concussive power puncher, what makes him dangerous is the amount of accurate punches he throws and his unbelievable workrate, sithi.
     
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    Exactly. What’s fascinating tonight is that Eubank’s never faced a big puncher before. It all depends on how he reacts when he takes that right hand. It’s easy throwing endless combinations when you’ve got stationary targets like a finished Abraham & Nick Blackwell in front of you but will he have the same relentless style when he’s got the best jab he’s ever faced & a big right hand stopping him in his tracks?

    The general consensus is he’s got a good chin but I saw him buzzed by Spike O’Sullivan who’s a decent puncher at middleweight but certainly no George Groves & then Paul Smith was hinting on twitter that Eubank can be hurt to the body & he & his brother have sparred him so they’d know. He’s going for Groves stoppage & he’s been in the ring with both.
     
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    Correct decision and brilliant fight. Groves though with his experience should have been finishing Junior when he got cut so early in the fight.
     
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    must be a poor division if groves is a world champion. All the respect in the world for their stanina and courage but neither are great fighters. Eubank needs a proper trainer and Groves should have put him away before round 6 with the size of that cut. Great fight to watch though.
     
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    Prince Naz making a fool of himself in punditry.
     
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    The cut wasn’t a bad one relatively speaking. Bad to us on here but not by boxing standards.

    Groves boxed intelligently, the heads were clashing & Eubank’s wild. No point taking risks to try & knock a fighter out especially coming off of a broken jaw in his last fight especially when you’ve another fight in the tournament in 4 months time.

    Groves is the best or second best fighter at 168 depending on how you rate Gilberto Ramirez, it’s not one of the stronger divisions but Groves continues to be underrated due to the Froch & Jack defeats which were both against top class fighters.

    Eubank Jr, DeGale, Smith, Ramirez, Benavidez, the Dirrell brothers, it’s not a bad division to be top of
     
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