[Official Site] Jose Morais: "I am more than a coach; I am a leader."

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  1. Dod

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    From what ive heard so far today on radio Sheffield all they were interested in was why 19 clubs in 19 years or summat on news. Didn't they have any positive questions to ask ?
     
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    I never accuse anyone of lying unless I am absolutely sure of the facts , that rule of thumb has served me well over the years , you are saying our new coach is telling lies & now you are hinting Hecky did , thats your choice not mine but I am not going to argue with you , I simply would not make a statement like that without having some concrete evidence to prove my point
     
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    Fair enough.
     
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    Apart from any other club ?
    How many employment offers has he considered ?
    None of us know so when he says he took on Barnsley because it offered a challenge who’s to say out of the opportunities he’s been offered the others were run of the mill coaching jobs with no responsibility on his part what position the clubs end up in?
    As with Keith Hill you stated you admired him because he said a spades a shovel and you liked that in him.
    As I said that’s your opinion not mine but the gist is if someone comes in positive your not warming to them because it’s not what YOU want to hear.
     
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    Reckon you should go into politics mate you would fit right in there with the others - Keith Hill talked out of his backside like he was out of his depth blaming everyone but himself
     
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  6. Jay

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    With all due respect Red Rain, you posted the following just 40 minutes prior to the above statement:

    You use the the words I, me or my 14 times in just one paragraph, which is entirely about you and your opinion. You brought discussing Red Rain to this forum, it wasn't anyone else. Other users are responding to the clear implication that you are an independent thinker and everyone else follows 'the herd'. I struggle to understand why you don't or can't see that this is at best patronising and, in actuality, insulting. To every other user of this forum.

    You're blowing your own trumpet louder and with more gusto than Dizzy Gillespie while simultaneously dismissing the opinion of everyone else.

    We're all independent thinkers on here. Opinions may fall in line on certain subjects, but they were reached independently.

    Your opinion is valued as much as the next contributor, your analysis of yourself and that of others is not.

    You weren't keen on certain aspects of our new manager's first press conference. That's fine. But that opinion does not make you a more independent thinker than someone who came to a different conclusion, it does not make you more logical, it does not make you more questioning and it does not make you more fair minded.

    You seem perplexed as to why you receive the responses you do. Read the above and try to absorb the opinion of someone who wishes you no malice, of someone who actually enjoys some of the opinions you give, even if I don't agree, and someone who has listened to others speak about the kind of stuff you've written here.

    To talk about myself for a moment, which I hate doing: I don't have any special insight or logic or knowledge or anything at all really. But I do tend to get on with people. I know a lot of contributors to this forum, just from from contributing to this forum. So there is a possibility I know what I'm talking about here. It's not much of a life skill, it doesn't get me laid or rich, but it does tend to prevent me from getting hassle on here, other than when I'm deliberately being a lovely person.
     
  7. Jimmy viz

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    It’s a wibbly wobbly world Red Rain has morphed into a a pre emotive criticises and previously hyper critical people are now happy clappers. I can’t keep up these days.
     
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    To simplify things perhaps the apprehension is that as fans we wonder what team is going to turn up on the day .
    Whereas now we are wondering what type of Portuguese management team is going to turn up .
     
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    JM does state that we play 4-4-2 in the Radio Sheffield interview. He goes on to say how he would like to switch gradually towards 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 in due course. I found this rather odd as we’ve rarely played 4-4-2 to be honest. The vast majority of our games have definitely been played with a midfield 3 or 5.
     
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    Jay, your criticism has hit home more than any other, and that is because I recognise that you are a fair and reasonable man. I do not think that you are right, but I would say that wouldn't I. I am going to have a long think about my future posting on this board. Perhaps posting boards and me just do not get on. I must confess that I have not enjoyed the abuse that I have attracted during the last year or so and perhaps the time has come to put myself beyond it. Thank-you for your honesty.
     
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    He’s probably talking about the game against Sheff Weds which is probably the only time he’s ever seen us play.
     
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    Yeah, I thought that as well but his following comments made it sound like switching from 4-4-2 wound be a culture shock whereas it really wouldn’t, in theory. It could be a shock switching to his brand of 4-3-3 though so let’s see what’s in store.
     
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    Spot on. I speak English and German and I live roughly 60:40 in England:Germany. Each time I travel to Germany it takes a few days to get back to fluency in German again. When I'm there I may go for several weeks without speaking any English at all, and then when I return to England it takes a day or two to adjust. He'll be fine in time.
     
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    There’s no need to pack in.
     
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    Agreed.

    We all have differences of opinion. That’s what makes the board what it is. I genuinely don’t think anyone in this thread who disagreed with your line of thinking wishes for you to leave.
     
  16. Jay

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    Well I really don't think you should stop posting because your opinion is valued and thought provoking. Sometimes to the point of being provocative, but that's all for the better. My post was delivered with the best intentions, to offer advice on how you may better relate to your peers, because it was obvious to me that you were unhappy with the responses you received (That's not a criticism, I would have been too, they would have genuinely upset me). But I can understand why you got those responses too.

    You're an intelligent guy who people like to read and you stimulate debate far better and more consistently than most of us can. Your views are often controversial, so you're bound to have people disagreeing with you. I think with a slight modification to the tone of your posts you could stimulate the debates you enjoy without the criticism that no reasonable people like.

    Something you must take into account from all the above is that there are people on here (and in real life) who think I'm a right *****, with far more disdain for me than anyone on here has for you, so my advice may be way off.
     
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    Jay and Red Rain sitting in a tree…
     
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    Mapp, if JM has only seen us in the Wednesday game he will only have seen us playing 4-4-2. Perhaps he's assumed that is our normal style? To be fair, I think it would have become so even if Hecky had stayed now McBurnie is in the door.
     
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    Don't worry! Be Happy!
     
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    I think it's a bit odd to set yourself apart with a regular thread title such as 'Minority Report' and then worry if people take issue and disagree (sometimes les than courteously). You can't do the first and then worry about the second. This is Barnsley after all, and folks are apt to be brussain! You have livened up a very dull Monday afternoon. I'd like to see the MR's resume, but you'll have to be less introspective and more thick-skinned. Or as Jose says, you'll "have to believe!"

    Anyway. I think Jose's English was perfectly serviceable. I don't have any of our squad down as being particularly deep thinkers, and I think given the clubs he has coached at, Jose will be perfectly capable of getting his message across. His "belief" mantra is intriguing (a Keith Hill word) and it will be interesting to see how far that will carry our players to achieve better results. It may just be the difference! We have never had a coach with the experience and CV of Morais. The only one who has come close was Alan Clarke in his first transformational spell. And he didn't have the same international experience Jose has. I like Hecky and would have loved him to stay, but it's hard to escape the fact that we were slowly sinking to the level of the annual struggles of the Davey/Hill/Flitcroft/Danny (v 2.0) years by the time Hecky left.

    As for Jose's indication of why he joined. First up, am I right in thinking he wasn't currently in a role? I seem to have read that somewhere, but it's not clear. So our job is work for him - well paid work by most of our standards (but mebbes not by Hecky's!). Secondly, if he says it is a challenge, by God he's right! We are still a small club in this league. Hopefully we will now be better resourced, but as Mr Conway says "we're not going to do anything crazy!" So the chances are that stabilising us this season and turning us into challengers next season most certainly does represent a challenge. Perhaps a similar one to Eddie Howe's at Bournemouth? You say he hasn't said why we are a special club. Well, we aren't - not by the standards of the clubs Jose has coached at previously. And not by the standards of this league. But turning us into challengers from our current base would in itself be something special. That will do for me.
     
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