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  1. DEETEE

    DEETEE Well-Known Member

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    Another grooming gang exposed.

    Described by the media as 'the worst' in terms of victims/ head of population.

    Over 40 years of abuse covered up by social services and the police to avoid beimg smeared as 'racist'

    Kids mobile numbers sold on multiple times to others.

    Five deaths linked to this tradegy.

    Victims making multiple statements following the same lines as Rotherham and rochdale that these gangs still operate with impunity.

    Given the constant failings by Social services, councils and the police is it safe to suggest that these organisations are not fit for purpose and is perceived political correctness the reason these crimes have stayed hidden/unreported or are there other agendas behind the cover ups?
     
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    Extremely Northern Well-Known Member

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    There'll be complex reasons behind it, but the arrogance of the public bodies who covered it up, and possibly the BBC who haven't reported it (I stand to be corrected) - just fuels the notion that some sections of society are beyond criticism or scrutiny to the detriment of others.
     
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    I don’t care who theses despicable people are , their backgrounds, race, colour, I hope they get the maximum punishment the law will allow. Talking of agendas Deetee, I’ve noticed that you are always active in either creating threads or posting in threads whereby Muslims are involved in atrocities, be it Child- sex rings, Terrorism etc. I don’t seem to remember you either posting in say USA related shootings atrocities or other atrocities whereby Muslims are not involved. Just an observation like.
     
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    Julian Broddle's Perm Well-Known Member

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    East Tiger.
    Maybe DEETEE is a parent who finds these kind of stories a little more disturbing than atrocities abroad.
    Whilst an American shooting is tragic, in simple terms, guns are readily available and lunatics use them to end innocent lives. Blindingly obvious and no cover ups involved.
    But, at home, right under our noses, far more devious methods are deployed to rob our children of their childhoods. Not necessarily a race issue, there are white English paedophiles too. I'm a parent and each one of these stories fills me with rage, not just because it's happened, but often because it could have been prevented.
    Anyhow, I usually refrain from threads like this, just don't want to watch another thread get dragged into a race row when I don't believe that's how it is.
    Right, over and out, off to Outpost for pre-3 point refreshments.
    Good day.
     
  6. Tarntyke

    Tarntyke Well-Known Member

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    As I said it’s an observation,I wasn’t referring to just child-related atrocities anyhow. I am a parent and have 3 daughters and the youngest is 7.
     
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    Not entirely surprised, spent a weekend there watching the UK Snooker finals and it is one strange place, second only to Milton Keynes.
     
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    Another truly sickening scandal, once again ignored by the BBC, The Guardian and only given limited press coverage. I find it unfathomable that in the current climate of women's rights, the #meetoo campaign and a long overdue acceptance that sexual abuse has been taking place in many areas of society, there is STILL a cloak of silence around the grooming gangs when certain demographics are involved. Why? It's still abuse, it's still vile, horrific crimes taking place. What are people scared of? If the reason behind trying to keep scandals like this quiet isn't political correctness, then what the hell is it? Even this thread has had little interest compared to most other news stories. Where are the usual suspects like Lily Allen? Why does everyone start bringing up racist groups and questioning the motives of posters who mention grooming gangs? It's almost as if merely mentioning their existence is now a tabboo, something to be ignored and not debated. Why? I can only conclude that there is still a bewildering fear that talking about or dealing with this type of crime may be seen as racist or a little risky. And that is exactly how these vile creatures are continuing to get away with unspeakable crimes. Society is more interested in Jamie Carragher and who tweeted what than actually helping young girls who have had their lives destroyed.
     
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    Wow this thread must’ve been brought forward about 3 pages. My point being this thread’s creator, if memory serves correct memory, seemsonly to post about atrocities including Child-sex abuse, other abuse and terrorists, when it it’s Islam related. I could be mistaken, but it does seem to stand out.
     
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    Yeah apologies, saw it yesterday but then forgot all about it with last night's match. I don't pay enough attention to know who posts what to be honest! The thing is though, publications such as the Daily Mail, various media 'celebrities' and outspoken Twitter personalities get labelled as racist because they always report and highlight cases such as this and perhaps they do have ulterior motives, but I always think, well at least someone has reported it. Rather than question why certain people highlight these crimes, I ask why many other news channels/newspapers/social media types DON'T mention it. And that's a general point not just relating to this Board or anything. I suppose everybody and every publication has some kind of agenda or angle on stories, I just like to see the truth about things highlighted, no matter how inconvenient or unsavoury it may be.
     
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    Oh aye let’s not mention men of Pakistani origin eh ? , the very reason why these ******** get away with it ! Are we not allowed to have an opinion . Ooooh be careful what you say when the truths inconvenient !
     
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    To be fair, he used to post about fishing. A lot.
     
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    Tarntyke Well-Known Member

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    Think you’ve gotten lost in what my point is about??
     
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    Fisting? I had a girlfriend who was into that. Surprisingly flexible she was for a small lass and capacious.
     
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    Im not a parent thankfully so i dont have to worry about **** like this happening to them.

    I havent even mentioned the backgrounds of the perps as although hineous these crimes are there is a pressing issue to hand.

    This being the continual cover ups of these cases by the authorities on almost every case that is known about from oxford right the way through to the current expose in Telford and every town inbetween.

    These cover ups are not some trainee social worker sticking a casefile in their drawer as they are overworked.

    The more i look into various cases the more similar patterns develop within those organisations that are there for our benefit and protection.

    Be it the Police who has destroyed evidence from victims or failed to act when presented with facts on the table. The same police who routinely act and censure whistleblowers from bringing these cases into the public light.

    Be it social workers who failed to act when its quite apparent whats going on. Those who have raised it finding themselves out of employment or sent on diversity awareness course

    Be it pressure on and from local government... Are councillors, elected officials in some of these boroughs complicit in the cover up of these crimes?

    There is definately been pressure appiled from central government downhill givem both Operation Augusta and Operation Span two of the more publicised operations were providing regular updates to the home office and the DPP.


    It stinks from ******* top to bottom.

    Whats your reasoning then for these constant cover ups?

    Who would you hold accountable?

    What do you think will change after yet another gang has come to light?
     
  17. Tarntyke

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    Still not my point, and I’ve already stated my feelings earlier in the thread about the perps. I work in aGovt dept and would have no reservations in reporting anything at all particularly of this nature.
     
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    The guardian first reported about it back in 2011:-

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jun/14/sex-traffickers-groomed-child-prostitutes


    Opinion piece from yesterday:-
    https://www.theguardian.com/comment...lford-get-serious-child-grooming-sexual-abuse

    Another report from Monday:-

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/mar/12/1000-children-victims-worst-uk-abuse-ring-telford

    I guess people only see what fits their narrative that somehow the "Liberal" media are systematically sheltering child abusers because of some misplaced PC. Seems more like the Police and Social Services are at fault along with the actual people doing this and I would say some of the parents for being unable to bring up kids properly.
     

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