Probably very few! So what we are realising is that The Plan ️ is only fit for L1 and one season in the Championship good enough for players to be noticed and picked up
Correct , it's nowt to do with 'the plan'. It's only failing because we are buying the same standard player and expecting them to succeed in the championship instead of L1. Houriane , Winnall , Scowen etc would have struggled initially if they were thrown straight into the Championship . Even Conor was dropped for a few games by Wilson when we were in L1 .
If we followed the plan but aimed it higher we might be ok For me the recruitment in the summer was from a lower starting base than the batch before.
Yup, If it was such a good idea, ever club would be doing it. Why spend money on transfers and wages when you don't need to? Football clubs will always look for talent that they can nurture and hopefully sell at a profit, it's now new, but you can't rely on it completely.
But surely that is the plan? Spending as little as possible and having your fingers crossed? As I've just posted, you can't rely on it totally, regardless of what quality you're buying in cheaply. There has to be something else surely? That something else that puts bums on seats.
But the batch before only really excelled in league 1 . They've had decent moves and secured their futures financially but It's arguable that only Houriane and Mawson have improved as players . Like I said in the other thread hindsights marvellous .
A deviation was acceptable at that point. I wonder what would have happened had he not turned out so well
It's a difficult one. On a par with understanding how things have got so bad so quick. I believed in the plan, but it was executed incorrectly this year. Purchases should have been up a level from the previous batch. I think some will potentially still come good, but the Championship is a big Misters league and there is not the same scope to keep blooding raw talent. Especially when we are trying new formations every week at totally the wrong time. I find it hard to understand why we beat Swansea to a place in the Championship and watched them leave us standing. I'm now watching Millwall do the same thing, whilst we live out our personal dreaded nightmare of indeed becoming 'this year's Rotherham'. Of the players you mention, yes, Yids and Hammill will go. The Hammill situation is sad as I truly think he would have offered more to the club from even the bench than the bizarre selection of Mahoney over him. Not our player, never will be. Hammill could have offered more to the recent fight. He would have been well up for yesterday. But I think others will want out too. Players like McCarthy and Mallan are desperate, if you believe their 'dad's on twitter'. Macca's dad almost made out this is not the same club he joined. Jeez, he only came 8 months ago. And what we do with that plethora of midfielders is anybodies guess. It's ok getting them on longer contracts but when they are not gaining in value we are left with a bunch of miserable ******** who just don't want to be here. Ultimately I think PH has a lot to answer for. I don't buy into this softness around him earning his move, or having to do the right thing for himself and his family. He essentially shafted us (YOUR club) by leaving his players, OUR players to start again with a new gaffer, new instructions and new ways halfway into a season where their morale was already shot at. It's a really sad situation. The cusp of something special to an impending relegation in 13 months.
I think it’s unfair to suggest that all that batch didn’t excel. We were 7th at one stage and finished 14th - beyond most expectations I think Houriane has continued to develop but he was the exceptional talent out of them all for me. Of course Mawson has done incredibly well too. The others are solid (at worst) Championship players now. Most of which we’d take back in an instant.
We've signed a potential season saver in mcburnie this time, but the others just can't seem to raise their game accordingly.
My point exactly . It's nowt to do with 'the plan ' .It's everything to do with quality recruitment, but it's not an exact sceince. It's easy to be critical now because very few summer signings have worked out .
But it was obvious that same many signings from such a low base weren’t going to all work. Paul Heckingbottom said it several times that we’d be lucky to get 40% up to standard I think folk easily forget the amount of players discarded in the search for those good enough from the first batch. For Winnall there was about 8 thrown away. For Houriane, we are already on 4 or 5 not up to it
http://www.transfermarkt.com/fc-barnsley/kader/verein/349/saison_id/2017 Link shows who is in & out of contract at specific dates, also the current value of each player. Yiadom is the most expensive at £3m, Knausmuller the next at £1.5m, not much value after that........
