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  1. sel

    selby Well-Known Member

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    Whatever it is Mcburnie is wasted on the wing.... If we want to stay up he needs to be playing through the middle at least giving himself a chance of creating something or scoring.
     
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    Agree. Can’t understand why he was playing out of a position where he has made such an impact. Not the time to experiment like this.
     
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    Really agree I'm not tactician but playing our only goal scorer on the wing seems like a waste.
     
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    selby Well-Known Member

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    Me neither unless you count hours on champ manager in my youth!
     
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    Not played that game for years. Over new year I was ill and off work for a month. I downloaded the new one (football manager) wow is it complicated now, too many options.
     
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    Would usually agree but hasn't mcburnie played all but one and half games (Weds and Burton) on the left? And his return so far from that position hasn't been bad.
     
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    Brian Mahoneys Waist Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure Mc Burnie played in the same role yesterday as all his other games under Jose.The difference yesterday was a poor team performance with very few players playing at a decent enough level.
     
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    McBurnie on the wing was an unbelievably bad decision. In what state of mind would you need to be to think moving the player most likely to save us out to play on the wing is a good move tactically.
     
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    He has had some success no doubt about that. Where it has worked is when the ball goes down the right and he moves into the box as a 2nd striker which seems to be the idea. But when the ball goes out left to him he offers little as he doesn't look comfortable out wide.
     
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    He seemed to be playing more like a winger yesterday rather than part of a narrowish front three but you could be right that the appalling team performance just made it look worse than it was.
     
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    He's scored 6 goals from his wide position though. Had one knocked off the line yesterday.

    Playing wide of a 3 doesn't mean he has to stick to the white line. When the ball is no Thiams side, it's up to mcburnie to drift infield and vice versa.

    This argument is getting like the old one about Bradshaw not being used properly which is fine if you're laying all your goal scoring expectations on one player.

    If Moore, Thiam or any of the midfielders started to take a bit of responsibility rather than leaving it all on mcburnie things wouldn't be half as bad.
     
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    It's the first time I've seen McBurnie and he wasn't involved as much as I expected him to be. Getting the ball to him in dangerous positions, should have been at the forefront of our thinking, given his form in front of goal at the moment.
     
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    Was thinking exactly the same myself...
     
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    Jeez.
    It’s not that he is hugging the white line all the time - but he has the duty of a winger.
    Can’t you see that ???
    Which means tracking back FFS!!!
    How many times against Norwich and Millwall did you see one of the Championships best goal scorers tackling players in and around our own penalty box ???!!!
    And when he gets the ball out wide in the oppositions half he doesn’t know what to do with it and can’t properly cross a ball.
    And same applies to Thiam.
    It’s pathetic.

    While at the same time we have players such as Hammill and Isgrove that have had this sort of defensive role and getting good crosses into the opponents box early absolutely drilled into them by Hecky.

    Morais has over complicated things - and it’s going to cost Barnsley relegation - simple as that.
    Not impressed so far by Morais one little bit.
     
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    If you haven't noticed, we have a team full of players that can't properly do anything for the most part.

    If you think that it's just as easy as playing mcburnie in the middle and we'll start winning football matches then you're as daft as a brush.

    What have hammill and isgrove done of late to make you believe they can supply the firepower to mcburnie and Moore, and which midfield pairing would you have faith in not being over run because we have the luxury of two wingers?
     
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    He thinks we have a good side whilst ignoring the fact that 7 wins from 38 attempts suggests the opposite
     
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    It must be said he was playing as deep as left back in the 85th minute though. Bradshaw, Moore and Thiam were lining up as a three.
     
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    Yeah mate, you're always going to get asked to do something different in games. Gardner finished game as centre half.

    Tell you what has a bit to do with it as well. Yiadom and Thiam work together on the right. There isn't that same understanding down the left. We seem very right sided, hence why most of our (few) goals seem to come from that side.
     
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    You can get away with playing McBurnie wide if the left sided player in the central 3 can run all day & can cut out danger but without Williams there’s no one in the midfield who can do that & you’re in a situation where you either have to have McBurnie tracking back all game or you’ve got to change system.

    The only other left sided player I’ve seen us strip any defensive responsibility from was Vaz Te & he got away with it because he’d got Golbourne behind him & Perkins on the left of the midfield 3 running round like a mad man
     

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