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  1. Redstar

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    That assumes that that is all they are here for.

    Chinese soft power
     
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    Errr...they have paid money to buy the club and at a minimum have paid back every penny spent

    We’ve no idea what they will or won’t do yet
     
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    This is what the club put out:

    Barnsley Football Club are thoroughly disappointed to announce that Paul Heckingbottom has joined Leeds United.

    The 40-year-old will move to Elland Road instantly. Heckingbottom will be joined by Jamie Clapham (First Team Coach), Nathan Winder (Head of Sports Science) and Alex Bailey (First Team Performance Analyst) who will also all depart Oakwell immediately.

    The Club are shocked at Paul Heckingbottom’s desire to leave, having agreed a new contract with Barnsley Football Club last week following the completion of the January transfer window, where the Board of Directors worked tirelessly along with Paul to secure their targets, resulting in a successful window. This left the Club optimistic in a turnaround in form and a strong end to the 2017/18 campaign as we battle to retain our position in the league.

    Barnsley Football Club Chief Executive Gauthier Ganaye commented: “Yes, it was unexpected. Yes, it has come during an already complicated period. Yes, it will make things more difficult short term, but our Club is full of resources and it is certainly not dependent on one man alone. I’m asking everyone from the players, employees and our loyal fans to come together as we have an important game on Saturday.”

    The Club want to place on record their thanks and best wishes to Paul Heckingbottom and his coaching team. Having taken on the role of Head Coach in February 2016, he has guided his home town Club to promotion, a Johnstone’s Paint Trophy victory and the highest Sky Bet Championship finish in 20 years.

    Until a new Head Coach is appointed, Paul Harsley will take caretaker charge. The board fully trusts him to lead the team whilst getting the maximum levels out of the squad and we all support him in this new role as caretaker.

    Ganaye added: “Paul Harsley knows the Club through and through. He has a sound knowledge of the Club as a whole and the team, which makes him the ideal person to lead us towards what is an important game for the town, the Club and the fans. Let’s get behind them!”


    What's 'bang out of order' about that? Or overly emotive to address another criticism?

    "thoroughly disappointed" - I guess that's more emotive than a usual statement announcing a departure. But if you analyse the meaning behind such an expression, it's actually a compliment to Hecky. We're thoroughly disappointed because we wanted him here. We're thoroughly disappointed because he's gone. We're thoroughly disappointed because we wanted him to continue managing our club. If we'd stated that we were absolutely over-*******-joyed by his departure, laughing our socks off that one of our local rivals had employed such a useless feckwit then yes, that's bang out of order, but we didn't, we expressed disappointment that he'd gone. That's a clear sign that we valued him.

    "instantly"and "immediately" - ie that's when they're ******* off. Strong words, but factually correct, completely true. They went straight away.

    "Shocked" - They explain why: he'd just signed a contract, we'd just brought in a load of players. I was surprised too. Had there been no contract announcement, had we not signed anyone in the transfer window, then I wouldn't have been, but he did and we did, so yes, shocked.

    Ganyae gives an interview and again says it was unexpected and that things will now be more difficult. They're going to be more difficult because we valued Heckingbottom, because we rated him as our manger. It's another compliment.

    "our Club is full of resources and it is certainly not dependent on one man alone." Maybe that's it, that's what's bang out of order. A rallying cry to the fans and the players. It's the only phrase in the whole piece that could actually be viewed as a criticism. But the criticism is that as disappointed as we may be, we can survive without him, it wasn't all just down to Hecky. He's not God. As criticisms go it's the blandest I've ever heard. You're good mate but you're not omnipotent. Don't know how I'll ever cope if someone should ever aim that in my direction.

    Last time I left a job I was escorted off the premises and told to **** off and never come back. Hecky leaves for his local rivals after just signing a new contract and gets a press release praising him! And that's bang out of order apparently. He's a thin skinned, weak assed, over pampered, over paid, under talented, joyless tool of a man.

    Hopefully we'll stuff Leeds on Setdi but unfortunately we have a squad of players that Hecky was involved in signing and Leeds have a squad of players that Hecky had no influence in bringing to their club, they were signed by someone who maybe knew what they were doing, so we probably won't.
     
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    Exactly - couldn't agree more.

    Who the **** is he - outgrew the club.

    What does he think we are an under 7's pub team.

    **** me - if you're so fecking good hecky - how come your record with your own team (not Lee Johnsons) is so ****. The only time you can outgrow a club is when you've taken it further than it's ever been before.

    I really fecking hope we beat Leeds this weekend and he gets the sack...

    then he'll be lucky to get a minor coaching role in a pub league.

    Remember Simon Davey Hecky - no - neither do we - and we won't remember you in a couple of years time when you're coaching the kyrgyzhtstan..

    Arrogant ******.
     
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    To my mind, it's now owned by people that the late Patrick Cryne trusted to both perpetuate the Club as a viable entity
    and/ or hopefully take us back to the Premiership. Without knowing any of the background detail and with Mrs Cryne and
    young James Cryne fully committed and involved, personally, that's good enough for me.
     
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    What a toad he is, Propper no class. He should be thanking the club for giving a academy manager the job with no experience at that level. With a time in form and assembled with some good players by previous managers. Then given more money than any other previous manager to
    Assemble a team
    That can’t create, Score or win. Then he shits on his so called “boyhood club”. Really hope we stuff Leeds, the arrogant rat. Sithi
     
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    That is true and I'd somehow managed to selectively forget that.

    That's not true though, I like bland corporateness in companies, I can't stand when companies try to have 'banter' and act cool when they are speaking for all the fans. I know that wasn't the case here as they were speaking for themselves, but I don't like when they write embarrassing things on Twitter when they are representing all the fans and then other club's fans then think that we are all idiots by association.
     
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    I’d imagine what pissed him off was the contract comment which he says was done weeks before but not announced due to Patrick Cryne’s death.

    The press were full of the ‘he’s left Barnsley when he only signed a contract 4 days earlier’ talk. It was one of the main talking points on the debate on Sky & was spoke about on 5Live & Talksport. It was big news at the time.
     
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    I don’t like it when the company that makes my toothpaste tries to be ‘cool’, but I think BFC is something different entirely. It’s a community of real people. No one’s in it to make millions. When something great happens, everyone at the club feels it, and the same when something bad happens. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the club’s social media presence being representative of that.

    Employees of my preferred dishwasher tablet producers don’t care if their company goes through a rough time (other than with regards to their job security), BFC is different from that, and so I don’t know why they should be held to the same standard of blandness.
     
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    It's hard to understand wtf he's talking about in that article..
    Still glad he left.
     
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    There was NOTHING embarrassing about that statement
     
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    If they were that shocked and disappointed, why was it that they gave Leeds permission to speak to him?
     
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    Let’s be right, the old regime put out some right bitter statements - anyone remember the Ben Mansford one where they basically belittled his role at the club - and they’ve also spent a lot of time in fans forums carefully dropping ‘facts’ about popular players and their agents just after they’ve chosen to take the money and flog them on.

    However, on this occasion I’m struggling to see what’s really up with it.
     
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    Release clause?
     
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    Fair point.
     
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    It's a **** attempt at 'mind games' - trying to get Leeds fans on his side and unsettling tarn. Sorry Paul - it's not your bag. Fergie mastered it, Mourinho to a lesser degree, but you? No. Just makes you look a mardy get. Crack on with the day job, yeah?
     
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    **** him. Nothing wrong with the statement or anything that's come out from the Club. If it had been me in charge, the statement wouldn't have been anything like as diplomatic as it was.

    The way he's conducted himself has been proper w&nk in my opinion. On top of everything else, he will be doing everything he can to beat us on Saturday, knowing it could relegate us.

    One our own? Like ****.
     
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    So you think they should have stood in his way and forced him to resign?
     
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    I didn’t say there was, I gave Twitter as an example of where the club can sometimes make embarrassing comments. I was simply making the point that I wouldn’t complain of corporateness as you suggested.
     

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