The state of Barnsley FC through my eyes

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  1. Glenn Tremble

    Glenn Tremble Active Member

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    I’ll still support the club no matter what but if they want me paying to go to games next season (regardless of what league we’re in) then get rid of Morais. Hasn’t got the foggiest and was only hired on the strength that he was Mourinho’s cone bitch at three different clubs. Shocking left field appointment by the club when there was decent managers out there that may have done a job for us. It’s strange but after hearing Conway’s insistence that they aren’t going to do anything “crazy” over and over at the takeover presser in December, I truly believe him and see what they’re all about. Hardly spent anything in January and when they did, it was for trash players one of which had been released by Forest (Mills) another who was recovering from double major knee surgery (Pinillos) another who Mick McCarthy deemed surplus to requirements for a mid table side (Moore) and another (Knasmüllner) who couldn’t get in a pub team or even an U13 side at present. There was no intent whatsoever from these owners and Christ, I wasn’t expecting them to shell out millions on a Man City level but a tad more than what we’re used to would really show ambition and rally the fans but no, they wanted the stable Championship club they spoke of in the presser on the cheap and when they bought our club for a paltry £20m, they thought they could follow our business model under the Patrick Cryne era in January and it’s backfired spectacularly. No way am I speaking bad of Patrick, he was amazing to us and will always be Mr Barnsley to me but this so called “consortium” need to realise the Championship gets harder each year and as much as I say that Keith Hill was one of our worst managers ever, he was right in saying that the Championship is the Premier League 2 and they cannot implement the same business model in future seasons. Hope they do something “CRAZY” in the summer window both in playing staff and managerial staff but I won’t hold my breath. Either way, Morais has to go. Never lasted a single season no matter where he’s been as head coach and I believe this is a job that’s out of his depth.
     
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    I agree with much of what you write there, GT. I am not prepared to pay to watch the team in League One after a relegation that will be largely self-inflicted. Morais comes across as a good man and a knowledgeable coach. But his knowledge is not of the situation we face now, or will do in League One. But consider what has happened at the club since Gauthier's arrival. The failure to land the McBurnie deal in August dealt a blow to our Championship prospects. It's clear now that the Summer recruits were largely substandard for the league we're in. The January draft, McBurnie aside, has been little better. We have fallen out and ultimately lost the services of one of the best manager/coaches we have had in my time following the club. And we now face a season, and possibly much longer in the alehouse league. By anyone's standards that is a pretty poor year. I'm not against having a non-English CEO or head coach, especially ones with god contacts and experience. But these two have not assisted us, and I can't see that changing. As for Mr Cryne, he gave us a golden year in 2016 (half in League One, half Championship). But ultimately, he cashed in our gains and the new regime have not yet redressed the deficiencies.
     
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  3. Glenn Tremble

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    That’s a great reply my friend and I couldn’t agree more on the McBurnie deal. We’ll have our “what if’s” about that when we reflect on this season but for now I’m trying to throw every ounce of positivity I have left towards the team and pray that we can get the wins needed to stay in this division.
     
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    How does Morais come across as a "knowledgeable coach" Orsenkaht?

    You've got me on that one !
     
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    Very harsh on the owners, they need a summer to bring their own off the field activities on board. Palmer, Hayselden, CK Beckett etc etc aren't their sponsors. They spent a fair bit in January window compared to our past windows and they'd only been in a few weeks. Our turnover is that low its very easy to break FFP rules, a lot of work to be done off the field first.
     
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    When I said in August we were relegation fodder , a league 1 club punching above our weight and the aim was hoping 3 teams were worse than us you said.

    "Nonsense from first to last"

    Wish you had been right!
     
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    He was employed for five years by Inter, Real Madrid and Chelsea working alongside one of the best managers in the game. I can't believe he held those posts down without possessing knowledge of what he was doing or acquiring more on the way. As we now know, that is of course utterly irrelevant to a relegation scrap at the foot of the Championship!
     
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    But we were supposed to have identified targets ready to go to business on. I can't believe what we got was the extent of it. Money can often solve problems but you have to spend it. And if we really are going to be so closely bound by FFP then we're going to have bigger problems next year? Of course that can all be got round by the wealthy - and there are only six clubs in the land with the combined wealth of our owners. Summer will tell us much?
     
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    When was it said we had targets identified ready to go?

    It was also said, several times, by the man you adore that no work had been done and it was all on hold because of the pending takeover
     
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    Yes - and you rightly upbraided me at the time and said I should just have said "I strongly disagree!" Moreover, and regrettably, the season would suggest that you were right and I was wrong, and I also wish I had been right! I think the context of that exchange was the narrow defeat at Sheffield United where Angus's antics somewhat derailed us - assisted by the venerable Mr Clarke. I felt that the displays against Ipswich and Forest held out much promise, whereas I think that you felt we were lucky against the latter. Of course things look different now!
     
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    I adore Lady Kaht - and no-one else.
     
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    Wasn't a I told you so (Ok maybe a little)
    But more as I read your post on this thread I found it interesting how the last 8 months have changed you opinion. Refreshingly as I too try to be willing to change my opinion when it's shown to be wrong.
    As I say this is what I feared and expected for this season and we very much have ourselves to blame. But it was not a universal view, sadly those making the calls at the club didn't see it either. I just hope the new regime learn the lessons from the old one.
    All that said 3 points tomorrow and we still have hope.
     
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    Wasn't a I told you so (Ok maybe a little)
    But more as I read your post on this thread I found it interesting how the last 8 months have changed you opinion. Refreshingly as I too try to be willing to change my opinion when it's shown to be wrong.
    As I say this is what I feared and expected for this season and we very much have ourselves to blame. But it was not a universal view, sadly those making the calls at the club didn't see it either. I just hope the new regime learn the lessons from the old one.
    All that said 3 points tomorrow and we still have hope.
     
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    Inter, Real Madrid & Chelsea are not Barnsley. It's like saying Lewis Hamilton should be able to win a GP in a Ford Mondeo! someone at the club (GG?) should start living in the real world!
     
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    Brilliant.
     
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    Regarding the January window you can't blame Jose he wasn't here.And how can you blame the new owners and G.G.P.H identified the players HE wanted and the club secured there signings.
     
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    As far as I can recall TT, my pre-season view was that with the late recruitment and the limited time to work with those we got in, we would struggle enormously for the first ten games or so, hopefully with improvement to come as Hecky and his staff got to work with the players and drew out their potential. When we scored those wins against Forest and Sunderland, we were ahead of where I thought we'd be - hence my bullish optimism (over-optimism, it now seems!). I was sure we'd survive. As the season went on, it was noticeable that Hecky's demeanour was very dour - even in victory. Perhaps he had had an inkling of how the new owners wanted to work and didn't like what he heard? Who knows. I know others disagree, but for me January was disappointing, and I think the owners were not unhappy to see Hecky depart - whatever their public pronouncements. I can't see three points tomorrow for the life of me, so let's hope I'm as right as I was in August!
     
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    Answer the question man!
     
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    I answer what I choose!
     
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    Hecky had NO involvement in the identification and signing of Knasmullner.
     
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