Does it really matter who the next Head Coach is ?

If we get a good un, and he as us at the top of the league after ten games, absolutely coasting the division, he’ll be off to the first Championship club to sack their manager, then if the next ones any good he’ll be gone by Christmas. Until we cop for a **** one, and we’ll hold on to him too long. So how can people get excited at the prospect of a new head coach ? . Everyone seems to see it as a new start, I just see it as a continuation of the same old *****.

 

That's the way football is.

 

I would hope that we now have the financial clout to prevent that from happening. Surely the new owners, if they've got any sense, will tell the new man that he will be given reasonable resources to get out of League 1, as was the previous incumbent at that level. However unlike last time, funds will also be made available to consolidate and challenge in the second tier once we are back there. Bearing in mind how even a little bit more investment could have seen us in the playoffs last season, I think that any plan like this would appeal to an ambitious young manager looking to better himself.

 

It probably doesn't bode well for the new man if he gets offered only a one year rolling contract. Doesn't exactly exude a sense of permanence.

 

So basically chalk **** on it ?

 

Rolling contracts actually give more security . The clues in the wording . Even after 11 months you still have 12 months left ! But of a fallacy that it’s not giving any security

 

That's a nice cheery post to start the day, have you ever thought of doing stand up comedy ?

 

I take your point, but this is where the club philosophy needs to change. We need to be able to pay enough to retain a good manager and at least a core of better players. If we continue to pay league one wages, that is where we will ultimately remain. I think that if we were successful in recruiting, say, Paul Hurst (my best choice), and he takes us into the play-off positions by mid-season, we should already be looking to secure the longer term contract with appropriate upgrades if we are to be promoted back to the championship. We have learned the lesson the hard way. Next time we need to remember the lesson and plan appropriately. We might not have held on to the Hourihanes of our side, but we really could have done more to retain the likes of Scowen, Watkins and Roberts. I read Fergie's book about team management and one of his key points in forward planning is to make sure that not all your key players are going out of contract at the same time. Sense if you think about it, but it needs to be applied effectively.

 

So don't bother and let GG do it himself then?

 

Just keep promoting u23s coach, get an ex player to replace him, and continue the cycle, every 12 months, sell the one that gets us promoted to the championship, sack the one that gets us relegated to league one. So on and so forth. We all know we’re we stand, and we don’t keep getting beat up by false hope.

 

You are right about ex players or coaching staff , our last four promotions have come from promoting within the club , so I agree with you , we should set someone from within

 

Agreed. I’m genuinely not that arsed who we get they’ll not be here long either way. I just want someone who’ll come in and try to play decent football.

 

Are you knew on here ?
Did you know Barnsley has new owners?

 

So what ? As anything changed ? . They’ve had a transfer window, and stumbled about in the dark yet again, we’ve all renewed our season tickets at the same time, at the same price, nothing’s changed it’s the same ***** being served up by richer people that’s all. Open your eyes pal have a look at what’s really going on, they’ve continued as we were and taken us backwards.

 

Its far two early to judge the new owners , when taking over there was a very delicate situation with Patrick , they backed Hecky in the window & gave him a new contract & then he put the spanner in the works which they would not have been prepared for & regarding the season tickets , I was happy with the offer , especially that there was a reasonable chance those tickets would have been for championship football had we survived, but even at league one level they were offered at a decent price , matchday prices have yet to be announced & I hope they are reduced to encourage the casual fan . I personally think the owners should be given a couple of years to be judged , not four months under very difficult circumstances

 

I often wonder if the players could organise themselves and not do any worse.

Just look at Lee Johnson - 10 without a defeat followed by 10 without a win all through his career, and Heckingbottom, who inherited a fantastic squad to make him look good and since they left he's rarely won a game with two clubs.

Not suggesting we should do away with managers, are they really all they're cracked up to be, or is it more about players?

 

I'm more than prepared to give the new owners time but can only judge them on their actions so far which in my opinion have been extremely poor. They made a monumental balls up of the season tickets for the coming season (despite that you in your tiny minority of existing season ticket holder oap with young children gets a good deal on renewal) they brought a manager in from across the world and then sacked him two months later and have collectively been extremely quiet since relegation.
They will be given time by me but up to now they haven't exactly covered themselves in glory

 

You CAN NOT judge the new owners on the last transfer window. January is notoriously difficult to achieve good recruitment at the best of times. A team struggling in a relegation battle is going to have an almost impossible task in trying to recruit quality players from clubs at its current level if they think they're risking their future at that level by joining.
No one knows how the new owners are going to turn out. They could be brilliant for us or they could turn out to be like the Venkys. But to judge them after barely six months and on one transfer window is, frankly, ludicrous.

 

I do not think I am in a tiny minority regarding the season ticket pricing , sales will determine whether I am right or wrong , although I expect a natural drop in sales following relegation , however I know my eldest grandson pays full adult & he is quite happy with the price but I can only speak as I find , I know this much , we are not a charity & if you make the tickets cheaper then there will be less income to invest on the pitch , we cannot have it both ways

 

But don't you realise that the price you pay is different to the price any potential new fan has to pay? The post early bird price is ridiculous