I spend quite a lot of time in Liverpool and have lots of friends who live there. Granted in parts it’s a sh1thole, but some lovely areas too. There’s some proper knobheads who live there but also some of the best people I’ve ever met are scousers. Kind of sounds like Barnsley.
I used to love Liverpool but last month I was there and had my phone swiped by a gang of eastern Europeans. The place is ropey as fukk now. As for Saturday night, I hope Madrid win. Their still harping on about Istanbul as if it were last week, if they win we will never hear the end of it.
That's bad news about your phone, but to be fair something like that can happen in any big city in the world, and be perpetrated by locals or otherwise.
Absolutely it could, its just soured Liverpool for me personally. Used to really love the place. The morning after it happened I spoke to an Asian scouser who ran a local shop and he was really annoyed when I told him what had happened, said he was sick of eastern Europeans coming to his city and giving it a bad name, he was also really helpful. The police were brilliant too. Had it happened in south Yorkshire I wouldn't have even heard anything back.
An incident or two can easily have a negative impact on your impressions of a particular place or group of people. Where my mum lives in Sleaford there are quite a few Poles and Lithuanians, and the vast majority I've had contact with are extremely hard working and often very highly qualified - such as Tomasz, the pharmacist in boots, or her Lithuanian neighbours who work all hours at the local chicken factory while studying to convert their accountancy qualifications to UK standard and bringing up two kids. Conversely, 20 miles down the road in Lincoln, walking along the street I heard more extremely offensive Russian swearing in ten minutes than I'd hear in St Petersburg in a whole year.
Like most places, most of the centres nice apart from a few ropey characters & plenty of parts on the outskirts a dodgy. Daft to judge a whole city as one. I’ve had a few brilliant weekends in Liverpool & would recommend it & have never found the people miserable also worked there a few times & never found the people any different to your average people in Yorkshire, Derbyshire, Notts, Lancashire, North East etc
Bit like when we harp on about beating Oxford and Millwall at Wembley in the same season. Get a grip man.
How many champions leagues have we won? Do we not still talk about our one year in the premier league. All clubs continually talk about what success they have, otherwise what’s the point?
But were a small/medium sized club that has proper fans who were an actual part of what we have achieved. Most Liverpool fans couldn't find Liverpool on a map.
The problem I have with Liverpool and their fans is that they seem to think their club is fundamentally better than all the others. Not in terms of achievement or the usual way in which football supporters regard their own club, but they carry an attitude that the club is the most worthy, should somehow be revered and is beyond reproach. Whatever Liverpool do is automatically considered right because it's Liverpool, regardless of what the reality is (e.g. the way they dealt with the Evra/Suarez thing and the fact that their fans continue to abuse Evra for having the temerity to be racially abused by one of their players.) Every Liverpool fan I know carries an element of this attitude and arrogance and I hope they get stuffed tomorrow. For the avoidance of doubt my opinion above in no way relates to Hillsborough and I am not seeking to imply that the club or its fans should carry any blame for the tragedy.
Funny talking to an Everton fan last week and his only recollection of coming to Barnsley in 89 was being bricked and attacked. All places have idiots - us included.
They were responsible and people have been jailed - trouble started well before that on both sides - appalling stadium and organisation