Joses tenure

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  1. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Well-Known Member

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    I agree to an extent, I also blame the players as well as Jose. Where Jose failed miserably was his chopping and changing half the team every game. Instead of pretending to be a cat after the Burton game he should have smashed the dressing room door off and given them a reality check. I think he lacked motivational skills, tactical nous, man management skills and a basic understanding of his strongest team - all pretty fundamental requirements in a manager.
     
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    Some good points on here. Who knows whether heckingbottom would’ve kept us up

    One thing was evident in games such as Fulham at home (upto cavare sending off) and Wolves at home is he made us compete and have more shape. We lacked goals and we still don’t know with Moore and McBurnie added, whether they’d suit Heckys system over Morais

    One thing I do know is that the players would’ve played for hecky instead of that clown.

    The fact they stopped playing for Morais ultimately sent us down
     
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    I don't blame Jose at all really. We sold all our best players and replaced them with inferior ones. When you do that you'll always struggle and inevitably we did.

    But that doesn't mean I rate him. The damage was done before he got here, but he was still a terrible manager. We were already crap and then we employed a crap manager. Full house.

    Would we have done any better with another manager? I dunno.

    On another day Sheff Utd might have got six, but on that day we got away with it. More luck than judgement, the substitutions came way too late, but sometimes by getting things wrong you get lucky.

    The formation Jose played come hell or high water, which caused us far more problems than it solved, worked perfectly against Brentford. Hammill found himself in exactly the same area of the pitch as their best player (Ryan Woods) who starts every Brentford attack, but he couldn't against us as he had Hammill all over him. It'd be nice to think Jose planned that but I'm not so sure. Same formation as ever, the difference being that Hammill was in the no 10 role. But Hammill had played that role a week earlier at Leeds and done well, so I'm not sure it was designed to nullify Brentford. Whether it was or it wasn't, it worked, and I don't think the players we had would have beaten Brentford in any other formation and I don't think another manager would have set us up that day the way Jose did.

    6 points I don't think we'd have got with another manager.
     
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    I don't think he was unlucky, I do think a lot of managers would have kept us up though, that said it isn't his fault at all we are relegated it is the club's fault! He shouldn't have been anywhere near the job in the first place! What part of his CV said suitable man to keep up a side knee deep in ****? absolutely nothing! Terrible decision one that we may look back and laugh at in coming years when we eventually get back up to Champ (if we don't spiral any further down as many clubs have done recently)
     
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    Not the best manager we’ve had but far from being the worst , some of the chances missed in key games at the end would , if taken , have kept us up . Whatever the baffling changes and formations , the players sent us down along with weasel actions of Heckingbottom, having said that I doubt Heckingbottom would have kept us in the Championship
     
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    I think a committee of my 6 year old and her teddy woof woof would have made a better attempt at keeping us up.
     

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