[Official Site] Coaching Staff Appointed!

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  1. PLOBBY

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    So anybody will do then . You're happy with a bloke you've never heard of appointing coaches(his mates) you've never heard of . Easily pleased, it's just nuts .
     
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    I couldn’t care less if I’ve heard of the manager or the coaching staff.

    As for appointing his mates, it’s common practice for managers to retain staff that they know and trust. You often see the same backroom staff follow a manager from club to club.

    It’s Stendel’s head on the line here, he’s not going to appoint people who he doesn’t think is up to the job. Give the man some credit.
     
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    Heckingbottom had been at the club a number of years as a coach. While with us he studied for and passed first a BSc then an MSc in sports coaching. Those in charge knew all about him. He started out in a junior role but quickly worked his way up as those in charge monitored his progress. We could see what we'd got and had a good idea of what he was capable.

    We've now employed two people who those in charge have no idea about. I very much doubt anyone had heard of either prior to a few weeks ago. One has very little experience. The other has come from a club who operate at a much lower level than we do. Neither have any experience of the league we play in, the teams and players we will face or the players on our payroll.
     
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    It's pissing in the wind no better no worse . I'll give the bloke some credit when we start winning matches .
     
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    So what? They’ll have a full pre-season to get up to speed. Just relax and enjoy the ride.
     
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    How is the guy we’ve appointed to take us forward appointing his own backroom staff ‘pissing in the wind’?

    By give him some credit I meant as a man in that he won’t prejudice his own position by appointing someone who he doesn’t perceive is up to the job.
     
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    Exactly this. Folk just like a good whinge it seems.
     
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    I must admit, the coaching set up felt bizarre when it arrived in print this morning.

    I suppose like everything if they are competent at their job then they’re going to be capable, but on paper it does look a little weird.

    None of them have played at a good level and none have coached at a good standard apart from Mr Stendel.

    It’s an uncertain future I’ll give it that, could be a master stroke or a complete waste of time. Time will tell.
     
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    So what? Well, I've supported Barnsley all my life. They matter to me way more than a silly football team should, but I can't seem to help that. I'm very concerned that we've put people in charge of our team that don't have the necessary experience nor have they worked at the required standard to be given this level of responsibility at this level of football at a club with a multi-million pound turnover.

    We've employed people without experience before, but the likes of Viv Anderson, Danny Wilson and John Hendrie had the benefit of the vastly experienced Eric Winstanley to work alongside. Alan Clarke and Norman Hunter both had fantastic reputations in the game and numerous contacts.

    We've employed someone from another country, so his knowledge of the English leagues and players, particularly at this level, will be very limited. To help him in this endeavour he'll have two people who have just as limited a knowledge, one with little experience of coaching in general and the other who is used to working with players of a far lower standard.

    I'm flabbergasted that a club of our standing is doing this and I'm very very concerned.
     
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    Be reyt.
     
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    I’m not getting into an argument about it as you’ve made up your mind.

    I’m particularly excited about this appointment and I’m thoroughly looking forward to the season but I suppose it’s each to their own and that’s fine.

    What will be, will be.
     
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    I think he does. It was a wtf are we doing Jeez :)
     
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    It was a Jeez of disbelief of their credentials. I totally agree it all seems a bit bizarre. Is it true he can't speak English?
     
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    Sorry, wrong end of the stick.

    No idea about whether he can speak English or not. I thought that it very unusual that the club didn't release a video or audio interview and that Radio Sheffield hadn't interviewed him and put that on their website, and no interviews in the local press. In every other instance when we've announced a new manager there has been all of these. My interpretation of that was his English isn't strong enough to do any of these things, but I don't know.
     
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    Some people are being very blase about these appointments, considering we've just been stung very badly by a similar unknown in Morais. I was hoping Stendel would be assisted by a been-there, seen-that, wore the t-shirt kind of coach with more experience than him. I'm not sure the people running this club have a clue what they are doing.
     
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    I’ve got my badges, granted they’re cricket ones but I’m local, know the club and I’m not working at the moment.

    I’ve also played at a similar standard, Barnsley U18s, then years of playing in the top Division of the Barnsley league.

    42 years old which is good age, plus I’ve lived a bit so can teach the players about how to handle sex, drugs and rock and roll.
     
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    I can understand the concerns of some, but we've not even kicked a ball yet so whats the point in getting stressed. If we're ten games in and mid table then fair enough, have a go. But for all we know he might be the new Wagner. No point having a paddy just yet in my opinion.
     
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    If we’re ten games in and mid table, having shown improvement and getting to grips with his formation and tactics then I would take that. Obviously we’d all like to see us rip up the league with ten wins but implementing a whole new culture and methodology may take some time. As long as we’re showing signs of improvement game on game that will be ok with me, hopefully in play offs at Christmas and then a chance to push on January onwards.
     
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    Totally agree, but can still understand why some would be unhappy if we weren't in the top 6. But can't understand the negativity demonstrated by some already.
     
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    I think you would have had a certain percentage negative whoever was appointed - if it were Mick or Mourinho some would still be negative.

    I can understand the skepticism - once bitten and all that. But we’ve appointed absolutely terrible managers before from the UK so I won’t let the Morais debarcle dictate my feelings to all foreign coaches. A bad manager is a bad manager wherever they were from.

    I actually sense a bit of excitement. That’s how I feel. Completely blind excitement as I have no idea how he will do. But I’ve seen loads of Hannover fans singing his praises on social media, which is farely rare of a sacked manager. And he clearly knows how to win matches in higher leagues than he will be managing in now. The only question for me is will he be able to have the same impact and get his message across to our squad.

    I do find the clubs communication bizarre over the appointment. Especially those fans who pay for ifollow May have expected at least a ten minute chat with the new manager. Perhaps even GG to explain plans for the summer.

    I would like to know how hands off or on the board are. They told us they would leave it to the local management - GG and James I assume. But then Grace, Chien, Neerav, Billy and Paul all vote on who the new coach is. Bit odd. Did they all interview him? Or are they relying on the feedback from those who did interview him. In which case just let them choose.

    Morais was a mistake. A really really bad one. Everything I’ve heard about him is just comical if it hadn’t evaporated any chance we had of staying in the championship. If they make a similar mistake here then it stops being erroneous and starts becoming incompetence.

    However I’m really happy to get behind the bloke and see how he does and hope it all works. As long as he doesn’t come in and be absolutely bonkers then I’m willing to show patience. We’ve been Barnsley fans long enough to know that sometimes it takes time for that winning formula to click into place.
     

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