[Official Site] Coaching Staff Appointed!

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  1. Arc

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    It does seem that the club have gone out on a limb with this one. If it works brilliant, the guy may be a fantastic tactician and motivator and we’ll all be delighted. Ultimately we all want BFC to be successful.

    However, it does make you wonder what the criteria is for our appointment process. In the past we’ve either gone for a player (Clarke, Viv, Danny) or a bit of experience with a decent track record (Machin, Basset, even LJ).

    I know we tried something different with Morais which didn’t work but how did the board get to the answer of Stendel? It can’t be based on CV so it must be either a brilliant interview but then how did he even make a short-list to be interviewed?

    I really hope the board and GG know what they are doing because from the outside looking in it is really hard to see the process that resulted in these appointments.
     
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    From what I have read from GG after the appointment, it seems to have been based on the fact that we want to play this high press game and apparently Stendel is a manager that knows this system and that has played it before. It seems like they have come up with a plan/direction they intend to go down and then have picked a manager based on that rather than employ someone and then decide a plan. It is a risky move but shows some guts I guess.

    Whether or not that is all true or not we will never know though. GG could have just said that because the other managers we tried to get may have turned us down so we may have ended up with this guy as a result of that but I myself have trust in GG and the oard so I will believe that they have made the choice for a good reason.
     
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    I think the words you're looking for are, "You're right, he can't speak English".
     
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    That’s not what The Chronicle reports though, is it? Also note the phrase “believed to be”. The signs are that his English isn’t the best otherwise we’d have heard from him. But that doesn’t mean he can’t speak any at all and it certainly doesn’t mean that he can’t be competent by the time training starts next month.
     
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    The article that you’ve quoted doesn’t say that at all. I can’t believe you’ve gone to the trouble to post a quote only to then misquote it, particularly as you said previously that you don’t assume things.
     
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    I haven't misquoted it. I've copied and pasted it from the Barnsley Chronicle's website. Do you mean misinterpreted?
     
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    You and Mapplewell Red can split hairs as much as you like. If you can't conduct an interview, then to all intents and purposes you can't speak the language.
     
  8. Arc

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    Nathan - I hope you are right and this guy is the man to take us forward with a new style of play. However the concept of a pressing style is hardly new and there are plenty of coaches out there who would claim to play this type of football. I'm sure LJ, not that long ago, had a powerpoint showing exactly how he would get the team to play.

    My concern stems from the fact that the club have chosen a guy who has minimal experience of managing, no experience in England and has appointed a backroom team with even less of a CV. I really do hope he succeeds but this appointment has to been seen as a significant risk. We will get a much better idea of what is to come over the next few months with transfer activity and a few games of the new season but I find it strange where the club are going.

    When the first press conference was held the new board said they weren't going to do anything crazy.................
     
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    I've spoken to many Germans who say their English is poor.....trust me, if I could speak German as poorly I'd be a happy man.

    Anyway the real worry should be can he speyk Tarn ?
     
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    I’d be pretty unhappy to say the least. We are now a bigger fish in a smaller pond so should be performing as such. Anything less like mid-table or worse at Christmas for instance should be regarded as a massive failure by the owners. We shall see....
     
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    I’m in the positive camp myself. Seems a good strong appointment with a distinct idea about how we want to play. As for coaching staff it’s standard for a HC to surround himself with people he knows and trusts nothing to see there.

    It does interest me how he got to the interview stage given his CV you wouldn’t have thought he would definitely get an interview.
     
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    So basically he's got a few badges got himself a job then asked his mates if they fancied it .
     
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    It's a bizzare appointment . I could understand it if he was someone we had heard of but this bloke hasnt worked for 15 months . My cynical side says he must have come bloody cheap .
     
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    We haven't appointed a coach from Coventry City, whom you would imagine would have a good knowledge of the English game and the players and teams within it. We've appointed a coach from Rot-Weiss Essen. I don't think it's very significant how well the club did before Andreas Winkler worked there, but I do think the level at which the club have operated while he has been there is significant.

    Since 2008, so the last 10 years, they've played at the 4th level of German football or below, having one season at the 5th level. But the 4th level of German football isn't comparable with our league 2 as it's split into 5 regional leagues. Essentially, there are teams in these divisions that, in the English system, would be playing in the Northern and Southern leagues, at least two below the conference.

    Would I have the same objections if we'd recruited from Coventry? No. The two clubs are not comparable. Coventry haven't been playing in a semi-professional league for 10 years.

    And it's not objections as such, more like questions and concerns. Would I have the same concerns if our new assistant manager had spent his coaching career at Halifax Town and our new first team coach had just one year coaching experience at youth level? Yes, I would. I'd have big concerns, and that's before we factor in the lack of experience all three of our new recruits have in English football.
     
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    In the past 15 months he's been going to training camps in Europe learning different coaching methods.Arsenal being one of the clubs.
     
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    Which is good but I've read he's intent on the 'gangagapressinmuch' style of football . He's going to be an hard sell to the players .
     
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    Let's hope he doesn't mean Gangnam Style.
     
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    Absolutely yes.
    I work for a multinational German company who is looking to launch in China. They have requested that a number of the best trainers/ leaders/mentors help set up China for a period of 18 months. As Mandarin is considered one of the most difficult languages to learn, fluency would not be expected to be achieved in 18months, so all western employees would be given an interpreter. I'd be more than confident of getting my experience, enthusiasm and motivation across via an interpreter, if the Chinese and Germans are confident of using that approach, why do we in the UK view ourselves as different? " But that wouldn't work here" Why not? It's only the self imposed restrictions that limit success and this countries incorrect, "but we know best" approach.
     
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    Whilst continuing to be contracted to Hannover so in effect hes being travelling and bettering himself whilst on gardening leave.
     
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    But that's just making stuff up (sorry, I'm not singling you out, it's becoming a theme). I don't know the situation, but I do know you're only allowed to be put on garden leave for the length of your notice period (which is never 15 months by the way). I also know that apart from exceptional circumstances, it can only be for a maximum of 6 months. It's usually, and I mean 99.99% of the time, far less than that. This is EU law. I don't understand this need to try to justify the situation by fabricating scenarios that are clearly fanciful.

    I don't know what's happening, I'm asking questions, but I'm really struggling to understand why people are coming up with ever more ludicrous explanations for things they know nothing about in an attempt to sanitise what anyone with an inquisitive mind would naturally question. Not necessarily criticise, but at least question.

    This is a football message board. The only purpose of it is discussion. Yet there's an ever increasing number on here whose only contribution is to attempt to shut down any debate. They mock anyone who asks questions and attempt to undermine them by calling them negative. They fabricate answers to any questions without even a tiny scrap of knowledge of the reality.

    It's Stepford wives. Keep smiling, everything will be alright. Don't question anything, don't have an opinion. If it's good enough for overlords it's good enough for me. Betrayer! Heretic! Burn him!

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