Knasmüllner

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  1. DSLRed

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    How do you know he hasn't done enough. He might have worked his b0llocks off for all we know but was just never fancied by Morais as a better option on the day than any of the others in the side. And we all know how that worked out. Might be that he couldn't have done any more. Not his fault we signed him without any idea as to a plan re how he improves the team
     
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    Don’t expect anything more than:

    Christoph Knasmüllner
    Barnsley -> Rapid Vienna (Fee Undisclosed)
     
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    Why did so many people expect him to be any good? Nothing suggested he was any better than what we already had at the time, we probably had better players out on loan.
     
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    Crap coach i'm afraid.
    I dont look to abuse anyone trying to make a living, but this is a massive exception.
    He really had no idea about man management.
    Portugal the fool!
    Not so much of a fool, as he fleeced us too!

    Knasmullner has the ability.
    Showed it at Cardiff
    But never really got a look in.
     
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    I wonder if it was all the goals he scored, or the glowing press reports of his performances. Or perhaps it was his promising early career that saw him signed by Bayern Munich and Inter Milan...

    But yeah, you’re right. I’m surprised 32-time title winning Rapid Vienna didn’t come in for Shaun Tuton instead.
     
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    I think he may have been injured or recovering from injury when we bought him. Bit difficult to know for certain as it was the Austrian winter break, but he didn't feature at all in Admira Wacker's final two games before the break. He wasn't even on the bench. Prior to that he was an ever present and had scored plenty of goals. I doubt he was kept out of the side due to an imminent transfer as those final two games were early December and we didn't sign him until the end of January.
    You'd expect a player to lose a little match sharpness over the winter break, but Austrian teams do continue training during this period and even play friendly matches.
    The reports that filtered out were that he was a long way from match fitness. Maybe his natural fitness levels aren't up to playing in the Championship, maybe he's crap, but I didn't think there was that much difference between the level he was playing in Austria and the championship and he was a very effective player over there. I dunno, circumstances suggest he suffered an injury but could be completely wrong.
     
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    The assist was a misshit shot that fell to another player who scored, but yeah would have been nice to see him play a bit, terrible signing
     
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    Heckingbottom had no say in his signing.
     
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    I posted in early January that I'd read somewhere that he was out with a broken his jaw at the time he signed for us.

    Perhaps Knasmullner himself was unable to confirm this at the time, for obvious reasons.
     
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    Brian Mahoneys Waist Well-Known Member

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    I admire your unwavering support of Hecky,I too am/were a massive fan and he will rightly go down in the history of BFC for his achievements.Pauls interview on radio Sheffield put all these false claims about the club signing players for him.In his own words "If the club tried to sign a player I didn't want I would tell them not to waste there money as I wouldn't play them" He also confirmed he had the final saying to who he wanted in.
    Paul rightly got praise for some of his signings its also right that he should be lambasted for some of the signings who didn't work out.It isn't a crime,not all signings work out.
     
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    You keep repeating this Brian, over and over again. But you studiously ignore anything from anyone who directs you to the interviews where he said he wasn't in charge of signings.
    I don't know how our recruitment process works. All I do know is that it's impossible to tell from the interviews given by Hecky and those in charge. They're inconsistent and contradictory.
    You can, if you so wish, focus in on just one interview and what was said in that, but that requires you to completely ignore what has been said and written elsewhere. Both sides of the argument can do this.
    Both sides of the argument can give definitive examples that prove they're right.
    But if you examine everything it's as clear as mud. What's said one day contradicts what's said the next.
     
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    Hecky was incredibly contradictory with his interviews as he probably wanted credit for the ones that were a success and didn’t want to be connected to the more failed signings. I imagine Stendel will have little say on the transfers.

    Regarding Knasmullner, after seeing his record in Austria I must admit, I had high hopes for the lad. And when we got relegated to league 1 I was hopeful that he could really show us something in this division. Kinda disappointed that I won’t get to see him in this league but if he’s homesick and wants to go back to Austria then fair enough.
     
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    Explains why there has never been an interview with him
     
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    His missus is pregnant so im guessing that could be a factor in the move home...
     
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    Its clear Knasmullner was suffering from an iron deficiency
     
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    Ah no. My favourite ever Barnsley player.
    Or a calcium & collagen defficiency running down the length of his back. Similar condition suffered by a number of Barnsley players over the years. Notably Scott Wiseman, Tom Kennedy and Brek Shea.
     
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    Brian Mahoneys Waist Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the reply Jay.I can only comment on that interview because its the only one I have heard where the reporter asked him directly about signings.I haven't read or heard any other where he's said different.
     
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    That squad made this current squad look like Brazil 1970
     
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    occook Banned Idiot

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    As Jay has mentioned the sheer volume of contradictions over the policy is staggering. I hope GG can clarify it at the next fans forum. An honest answer would do the world of good to clear it up. I would have no problem with the spreadsheet identifying players, who the manager can then watch and decide. As long as the manager can also dictate which areas of the pitch need strengthening for the recruitment team to see what is available. Also if the manager or scouts find or identify someone they think would benefit the club I hope they aren’t ruled out because they don’t hit a certain percentage in a column on a spreadsheet.
     
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    That's fair enough Brian.

    I heard it too and I agree with you, it was unequivocal. If I'd only ever heard that interview I'd be adamant that Hecky signed his own players. However, I also heard the interview after the Rotherham friendly in the summer, and a few others around that time. In that interview he bemoaned the fact that we weren't bringing in quality, that we were desperate for quality signings. He stated that a number of players we'd signed were are all exactly the same and there was no balance to the squad. When asked if Barnsley fans could expect new signings soon, he said it was nothing to do with him and Radio Sheffield were asking the wrong person.

    As such, I have no idea what to believe. If one day I said I was black then the next I said I was white, what am I?

    I don't believe any of us can claim to know the recruitment policy at the club if all we have to go on is the what we can garner from interviews with owners, managers and CEOs as it's terminally contradictory.

    One of the best examples of how everything we're told means nothing at all is the interview Patrick Cryne gave after Lee Johnson left. He said it didn't matter Johnson had left as all the coaches at the club were working under the same philosophy and we would just promote from within and carry on in exactly the same vein. We basically had a boot room, like the old Liverpool model, and the figure head was just that. What happened to that?
     
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