He does but not often Croatia: 2 goals and 2 assists in 3 games Netherlands: 0 goals in 2 games Spain: 2 goals in 3 games Germany: 1 goal in 4 games Italy: never played against them England: never played against us Portugal: 1 goal and 1 assist in 2 games France: 1 goal in 1 game Total: 7 goals and 3 assists in 15 games
And Ronaldo Croatia: 1 goal and 2 assists in 3 games Netherlands: 4 goals in 5 games Spain: 3 goals and 1 assist in 6 games Germany: 0 goals and 1 assist in 4 games Italy: 0 goals in 2 games England: 0 goals in 3 games Portugal: never played (obviously) France: 0 goals in 4 game Total: 8 goals and 4 assists in 27 games So messi has only 7 goals compared to 8 but has got them in just 15 games as opposed to 25. Roughly 1 goal in 2 games compared to Ronald's 1 in 3
Both Messi and Ronaldo are unreal at football. Two of the greatest to play the game. Ever. I like both of them, would probably prefer Ronaldo in my team, but prefer watching Messi if that makes sense. But both of them are ***** at defending and require help from others to flourish. I will always judge full backs and centre mids as the best players as they’ve got to be able to defend and attack. And so I still believe Lothar Mattahus is the best player in my lifetime. I can’t judge anyone who came before 1982 so that rules out Pele and Puskas amongst others. Mattahus was an incredible all-round midfielder in an age where tackles were tackles, he was a monster, but he could play. Had an amazing engine. Could score wonderful goals with either foot. The key reason West Germany won in 1990 and an absolute God at club level before then becoming a cracking defender as he aged. Ruud Gullit, Patrick Vieira, Paul Gascoigne, my kind of midfielder. All could play, all got stuck in. From a Reds perspective? Neil Redfearn of course. Cafu, Gary Neville, Andreas Brehme, Lilian Thuram, Phillip Lahm, Alexander Kolarov, Roberto Carlos.... proper footballers, great going forward and back. Dream full backs. Don’t get me wrong, I love watching the flair players, Ronaldo (Brazilian), Prosinecki, Klinsmann, Zidane, Stojkovic, Hagi, Figo etc etc. Paddy McCourt... But it’s always those who get the plaudits. Let’s hope the Reds have a good mix this season. Once England (who do have that mix) have won the World Cup.
I checked a few different stats sites to make sure they were in agreement because as Adam hammill will testify they can sometimes be inaccurate but I've found the best one is transfermarkt which has a national sides page for every player and details all the national games including friendlies that theyve ever played. Messi's stats at international level are a lot better than people realise, they only reason they get ignored is because it isn't news to us while a European competitor is so it gets more media coverage
In competitive internationals Messi 34 goals in 82 games Ronaldo 68 in 105 games Club football Messi 354 in 264 games (1 league 1 team) Ronaldo 398 in 436 games (3 leagues in 3 teams) I’d love to have seen Messi having 6 years in the Prem to compare club football.
Really don't get the argument about messi potentially struggling in the prem. Players of a similar stature and style have coped just fine. And he's been brilliant against english clubs in the champions league.
It helps when using stats to backup your argument if the stats are actually accurate. Messi has 383 from 418 league games with Barcelona. 552 from 637 in total.
I used transfermarkt. It might be one uses starting appearances and the other counts sub appearances too.
He's alright against the glamour clubs, probably not so much Swansea or Stoke away, a bit like at the world cup for him. But who's to know he won't step out of his comfort zone but l can't fault him after being bottle fed by Xavi & Iniesta for most of his career.
Depends you could come on for 18 games in a season for the last 10 mins and barely get into the game, or play two games and get a few goals, similar number of minutes.
Plenty other players over the years in that team who have been "bottle fed" and still not matched messi in terms of goals or assists. And really dont get why it's so hard playing against stoke or Swansea...
Suarez 110 goals in 126 apps Neymar 68 goals in 128 apps Theres 3 of them fighting for that central role, who plays it? Do they switch about? Imagine Suarez in that great Barca side of a few years ago if thats what he's like now in a side that can't win much in Europe.
Ronaldo has never played away at Swansea either, he has played away at Stoke once in a game where he should have been sent off for violent conduct
Just seen this on Twitter so it could be all garbage Most goals in Europe Messi Salah Kane Most big chances created in Europe Messi Payet Insigne Most dribbles in Europe Messi Hazard Neymar Most MOTM in Europe Messi Thauvin Fekir/Neymar A poor WC in an awful national side changes nothing
Messi played deeper & also out wide more during the seasons with both Neymar & Suarez with him at Barca. If I remember right it was Messi himself who suggested he swapped roles with Suarez as initially Suarez & Neymar were playing the wide roles but it wasn’t really working as it didn’t suit Suarez so Messi swapped with Suarez & played wide right. Since Neymar left he’s gone back to a more forward role playing as a second striker off of Suarez