Tom Bradshaw

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  1. Mrs

    MrsHallsToffeerolls Well-Known Member

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    Should be adding £500,000 on just cos its Millwall, that`s if we have to do business with em. Prefer him to go elsewhere if he wants away.
     
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    It's a simple equation sell Bradshaw for allegedly £800000 and risk it costing £6 million + in lost revenue that an immediate return to championship would bring or risk losing £800000 by keeping him and hope to gain £6 million + by him firing us to promotion. Bradshaws sale or no sale will tell the fans how serious the new owners are about progress up the leagues or if they really are just interested in making money by constant player churn..
     
  3. Dan

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    I don't think that would tell us a great deal at all. They may well invest it, they may well not.

    All I know is Bradshaw was our top scorer, but his goal return wasn't spectacular, but we didn't aid his game either. He's in the final year of his contract, and he may well have had a relegation clause meaning he's had to take a pay cut too. With all that, and many fans criticising his performances... I can see his motivation for leaving, and I can see the clubs reasoning for accepting a suitable bid.

    He's also not the sort of player who is going to get 30 goals on his own. He needs service, ideally from wide. We've got rid of our quality winger. To get quality from wide, we need a strong midfield which we don't yet have.

    So if it means selling Tom for good money allows us to build a better squad with a solid spine, I've no issue with that.

    Worse case scenario is we get to this time next year and we failed to win promotion, and Bradshaw and Moncur are available on free transfers.
     
  4. Red

    Red CB Well-Known Member

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    What I said , is that we should not be selling any of our players who are of championship standard , not just Tom Bradshaw & I most certainly do not bellyache after any event , that was the whole point of my thread , I am making my point before he or anymore are sold, I am not gambling his transfer fee at all , because if he is sold , a replacement has to be bought & his wages paid , I repeat my point, we already have the players here , why gamble on replacements who by the look of it , will cost more than the fee we are willing to accept for Tom , it just does not make sense , unless we are content with being also rans , I do not think the fan base will be
     
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    Hi
     
  6. Dan

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    You do know this squad got relegated and we've since lost all of our better players. I can't see how retaining a squad of failures at a higher level is a natural shoo in of promotion.

    It is of course a gamble, because if you fail promotion with Bradshaw, you don't get the higher pot a league up, nor do you get his transfer fee. Yes, you get another player in and invest in wages and transfer fee, but you also get that over a longer contract period. Unless you sign them on a one year deal, but obviously that's not going to happen.

    In an ideal world, Tom signs a new deal. But if I were in his position I wouldn't as he loses control at his peak age. You seem to be missing the following points; since Bosman players have the control, we got relegated and many if not all of our players took pay cuts, SCMP cuts us under much stricter pressures being a club that dropped, players of championship quality would rather not play in league 1.
     
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    Red CB Well-Known Member

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    Its you who is missing the point, its not league 1 clubs who want to sign Tom, its championship clubs, there lies the clue , he is perceived to be better than the standard we are playing in , if that is so, it is surely beneficial to keep him , he is contracted to us, a replacement of lesser ability could well cost more & is a gamble , we know what we have with him , it makes sense to hang on to him.
     
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    No worries, you don't seem to realise that since we're in a lower division and he's only 12 months on his deal, he and his agent have all the power. Pre Bosman we did, but it's no longer the 1990's. Enjoy your summer.
     
  9. Red

    Red CB Well-Known Member

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    I do realise what you are saying , but he can still see his contract out , like Andy Yiadom did , we do not have to sell , but likewise , enjoy your summer
     
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    The board clearly aren’t push overs - if they rate the player then they will put a suitable value on him. If Millwall or anyone else matches that then he’ll be off and we’ll replace him.

    Personally hope he stays and scored 20+ goals. If a club offers £2m or more then I’d say that would be a fair enough price.
     
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    Spot on .. let's see if anyone is listening..
     
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    Is Tom Bradshaw a proven Championship striker? 8 goals one season, 9 the next; is that proven? (And he didn't score 9, he scored 7, 2 of those goals weren't his, whatever that bizarre panel says)

    I like Tom because he works so hard, but I thought he lacked a lot of quality. His goal return is not great, it's OK, but the rest of his play left a lot to be desired and if you're only scoring 8 or 9...

    He had two seasons scoring a lot of goals for Walsall at this level, so there is a strong argument to keep him to play in this division, but I'm not sure I'd want another season back in the Championship with Tom up front.
     
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    Not a very ambitious move for him if he goes there . Yeah, it's a jump back into the championship and improved wages, but are Millwall going to continue last season's form? I doubt it.

    We could easily be swapping places come next May - with any faaacking luck!!!
     
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    https://millwall-forum.vitalfootball.co.uk/threads/rumour-has-it.31229/

    The wockney cankers seem to think it's happening, although they haven't a faaaking clue about him - one of them seems to think he's a left winger!

    Typically, this thread was lodged in between one bemoaning too much multi-culturism and another on there not being enough 'truly' English players in the England squad. No wonder teams don't do well when going away to the Den, all that time travelling back to the 1930s must leave 'em ******.

    (And £800k is their record signing, believe it or not!)
     
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    Love the one asking if Bradshaw could be morisons replacement. They couldn't be more different
     
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    I have a feeling that Tom will go. I’d love him to stay as he’s scored in this division before and is championship class (hence why championship teams are in for him) but I think we’ll cash in.

    Seems like Kieffer Moore will be our number 1 striker (from me reading between the lines anyway) but if we are to play gegenpress every game then players will definitely need to be rotated more so there’s still plenty of game time available for other strikers.

    In today’s market I certainly wouldn’t be accepting £800K though. Rather lose him for free next summer than get £800K in for him now.
     
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    Said exactly the same.
     
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    Maybe, just maybe, we also want to sell? Get his championship wage off the books as well as bring some cash in for transfers?
    Not a lot happening transfer wise until we do so.
     
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    We will not get a lot for our money Gally , if the going rate for division one strikers is more than Millwall have offered for Bradshaw , quite bizarre that some of our fans think we can let Bradshaw go for around £ 800 K & buy a replacement of the same quality , ask Peterboro or Donny what price they are selling their strikers for & some might be in for a shock
     
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