Alfie Mawson sell on fee

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  1. Sup

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    To be fair the club only have themselves to blame for supporters guessing and speculating how much money we get from transfers. It's them who decide not to tell fans and instead to keep us in the dark with 'undisclosed fees' left right and centre.

    If they don't want fans to guess hat we got £2.5 million then be transparent and tell us what we actually get.
     
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    I think most clubs have relegation clauses.

    I'm sure that a club who were one of the favourites for relegation would have them in place.
     
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    The players had wage cut clauses included and we have lost Adam hammill, matt Pearson and Andy yiadom from the wage bill too.

    If our new owners have gone into league one running the club at a loss and hoping that other clubs generate us some profit in player sales then they're no better than the last one.
     
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    It's always on the profit rather than the amount. I think Swansea paid us £5 million(?) so any sell-on clause we have will be a percentage of the transfer fee over and above that. If they've sold him for £20 million we'll get a percentage of £15 million.
     
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    Pretty sure I've read/heard the same in a Ganaye interview.
     
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    The linked article suggests it's a percentage of any profit above £5m.
     
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    I agree but there are obvious reasons why the fee is not announced , I believe both clubs have to agree to it & it could also influence your up & coming transfer negotiations with other clubs who suddenly might think you are minted & thus up the price.
     
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    So that means, Swansea have sold him for £15mil, but I wonder what happens to the add ons we had with Swansea and if we get any of the add ons Swansea will have agreed with Fulham

    I remember at the time it being reported as 5.5 but could rise to 6.5 but Brentford got 500k of that in compo, it’s the problem with sell ons and other clauses it’s like a rabbit hole of clubs who have a hand in the pot
     
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    I don't think it influences negotiations one bit. I firmly believe that at this level every selling club will be able to find out how much we have just sold a player for if they really want to. Agents talk, players talk, owners talk. They just don't do it in public. Look at Patrick Cryne. Undisclosed fee after undisclosed fee but when he was in the semi private meetings with fans he was giving out transfer information and figures like they were going out of fashion.

    The only people it keeps in the dark are the fans which stinks IMO
     
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    I am interested to why you think it stinks , yes information is always welcome but from a personnel point of view I for one will not lose no sleep because I do not know what we have paid or received for a player , it does not register on my need to know scale .
     
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    Agents know the exact details of a transfer, they're part of the negotiations. Half the time, the player a club is trying to sign is represented by an agent from the same firm as the agent of the player they've just sold. Everyone in football knows how much a player was sold for if they want to, and the exact details of when the money is paid.

    A relegated club from the Premier League gets about £40 million in parachute payments. They sell a fringe player for about half a million which is officially undisclosed. They keep this undisclosed because otherwise other teams would think they were minted? And forget about the £40 million they've received from Sky? They keep it undisclosed because they don't want to be held accountable by the people who pay for everything via season tickets and TV subscriptions - fans.

    In the USA, all their professional sports leagues have salary caps or luxury taxes. Similar to financial fair play here. Because of this everything is on public record including the salaries of the players. The argument being - how can you possibly regulate a salary cap if the teams within the league do not release the salaries they are paying, if they are not held accountable? The answer is you simply can't. So everything is out in the open and the rules are adhered to. Over here everything his hidden and undisclosed and our financial fair play rules aren't worth the paper they are written on.
     
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    Because supporters are the lifeblood of the club. We dedicate our lives to the club and are emotionally invested in it and in the players so while they don't have to keep us informed if they wish to build a genuine connection with the supporters and make them feel valued they should be open and transparent
     
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    Post of the year. Well best post of the last 2 minutes anyway.

    It isn't undisclosed to stop clubs know g it's simply to keep fans in the dark about how the club they love is being run
     
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    I love the club & have watched them for over 55 years but I dedicate my life to my family not my hobbies & interests , its what I see on the pitch & the buzz I get from going to Oakwell which captures my commitment, not the transfer fees paid, price of pies or electric scoreboards , I just want to see them reds giving their best & wearing the shirt with some pride.
     
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    But you've just started a thread titled 'Alfie Mawson sell on fee'. I'm not suggesting this is anywhere near as important to you as your family, but clearly you have some interest in it or you wouldn't have read the article in the first place and wouldn't have bothered posting it on an internet forum. There's also clearly more to your support of the club than just turning up on a Saturday otherwise you wouldn't have joined this forum in the first place and wouldn't be posting and reading during the close season when we don't play any games and the discussion more often than not is in regard to transfers.
     
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    Different strokes for different folks and all that. For some people football is an extremely blinkered activity where they only care about what happens between the white lines, for others the price of food matters to them.
     
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    I agree of course I am interested in anything Barnsley fc , they are my club , I love them, in fact I even named one of my sons after a manager , but when a poster states that he dedicates his life to the club then I think a bit of perspective is required & to be honest , it as always been what happens on the pitch that drives my passion , not a balance sheet etc etc . I started the thread because at the time it was breaking news & I thought that people would be interested but I cannot get worked up about whether a fee is made public or undisclosed it is just not that important to me
     
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    Plus Mallan, Townsend and knasmullner.
     
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    Mint. All said and done we'll have made around £6m from Mawson.

    Reading through this thread, there's some posters talking about how obviously talented Mawson was and how he wasn't really a find of the club's transfer system... Weird that, as (along with many in that successful team) I remember Mawson getting plenty of flak for his early performances whilst he settled in and adjusted to life in a higher league.

    Furthermore, despite the disappointment of last season, some Barnsley fans seem reluctant to afford this bunch of players the opportunity to have failed in the Championship (whilst the JPT and L1 promotion team were able to adjust to life in a division below).

    This bunch of players will piss this league.
     
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