Brexit damaging to football

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  1. bfc

    bfc1001 Well-Known Member

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    It’s bound to have an effect.

    If it’s the financial disaster a lot seem to predict for quite a few years, folk won’t afford sky and bt subscriptions or match tickets.

    Never mind freedom of movement.
     
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    What compared to being able to afford them now?
     
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    I think toff means that people that can just about afford it now won't be able to after brexit, I think it will have a massive impact, could be wrong though.
     
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    It can only have a positive impact on the England team as far as I can see so if it makes no difference to Barnsley and it benefits the England team and home grown players then I couldn’t give a fig.
    Another article based on complete guesswork like 95%(guessed) of any argument from either side about brexit.
     
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    troff Well-Known Member

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    I’m massively against Brexit, I don’t see any benefit. I’ve said that enough on the many threads on the subject, it’s not for today.

    But to be fair I’m not so sure a bbc report is that likely to be unbiased or without agenda. All the media is slanted one way or the other.
     
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    If it means clubs must work harder developing their own talent rather than shop for average European players seems postive to me. Far too much short term thinking in our game.
     
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    There will be an impact, even if the impact is that many systems, structures and processes need to be arranged and maintained to allow the existing status quo to be retained.

    Many many questions and like everything else, no answer, let alone detail of answer.

    What will impact on overseas owners be and how readily they can move money in and out of this country to origin destinations.
    Impact of a devalued pound adding further price inflation to transfer fees and wage demands
    Freedom of movement of players from EU countries, working visas and permit protocols. Impact of players families and ability to move to their place of work.
    Rights of non British EU citizens, playing on a short term contract in the UK.
    Attractiveness of investment from EU countries, though large amounts of sponsorship seem to be increasingly from further afield now.

    All can be dealt with once the government decides what on earth its doing. Some will have slight impacts, some will just have Uk bureaucracy added and potentially a bit of extra cost.

    The biggest risk is if anything starts to erode at the television markets and that becomes less attractive to subscribers and sponsors. If a downward impact on TV rights occurs through much of the football structure, high indebtedness with lower revenue returns will demonstrate just what a house of cards the football industry is.

    It didn't take much to send us into Administration. It wouldn't take much to burst the confidence bubble that is football finance. If banks consider the sector to be in danger, they will scale back their lending and that's when it could get messy very quickly. Not directly Brexit related, but Brexit could start a process that finally spiralled to chaos. Just like the whole banking sector creaked from the issue of US sub prime.
     
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    All it will mean is that the European footballers will have to abide by the same rules as the rest of the world when it comes to signing for British teams. I think the criteria is that they should have played at international level for a number of games before they're allowed a work visa although I think Carlos Tevez somehow managed to get around it. So the quality of foreign player should actually go up after Brexit because the mediocre rubbish will not be allowed a work visa. Good news for home grown players as well.
     
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    We've won World Cup once in 1966 on our own soil - does that argument really hold water?
     
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    We would have only had 4 players left under Simon davey! :)
     
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    Does the same apply to managers as players? Potentially we could lose our entire management team, along with a couple of players (Cavare (France) and Pinillos (Spain) are EU citizens, not sure about Thiam (Senegal but could be France)), in March.
     
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    Would never happen though would it? Can you actually imagine any politician in this country being that hard on anything ever?
     
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    Well, given they were caught kicking out British Citizens who have lived here for 50+ years, so you never know...
     
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    If we leave with no deal. Who do you think our new management team / full backs should be?
     
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    **** me , a total non entity of a story, if buts and maybes nobody actually knows what it will mean. Given the fact that Football employment laws seem to have a law to themselves anyway, it’s not a huge jump to assume they will amend to suit.
     
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    I think an argument can be made that a hard Brexit could lead to economic woes for football clubs but history has shown completely the opposite .

    https://culturalhistoryus.weebly.co...rts-entertainment-during-the-great-depression

    During the great depression of the late 1920 s though sports teams had some immediate financial problems , long term it actually had a positive benefit as people used sport as a form of escape from the daily grind of life .
    This same behaviour was seen in the 2008 crash . Short term clubs reigned in expenditure short term ( bye bye mark robins , hello Keith hill ) but long term it's as if 2008 never happened , despite the effects of that crash still being felt in wider society.
     
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    It wasnt that long ago due to falling customer numbers Sky had to do a full over haul of its sports supscription services and prices.

    Brexit or not a product on an increasing price point will eventually hit a ceiling and sales will decline.
     
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    Im not expecting the government to kick out all foreign employees even with no deal. Do you honestly think that will happen? Anyway I'll play along - the two full backs would be no great loss. Williams and Williams would be my choice. Jurys still out on whether a foreign management team brings success. Pick your favourite seasons and take a look at the management team who were in operation then.
     
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    Well all I can say is that its one of the least of my worries over Brexit - if as is likely in case of a hard brexit I lose my job as I do almost all my work for an Austrian company a bigger effect will be I cant afford to come up for as many home games but again there are far more important items
    Doubtless some of you will have seen the reporting of our minister for transports discussions with the haulage industry yesterday where it is clear he has no understanding of the effects any brexit involving no deal will have on the industry.
    If we crash out with no deal next March the lack of foreign players in the Prem really wont matter to me at all
     

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