Brexit damaging to football

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  1. Dan

    DannyWilsonLovechild Well-Known Member

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    I'm swiftly coming to the conclusion that "No Deal" is actually just Olde English for "No Detail"
     
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    Or possibly "no idea"?
     
  3. Dan

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    Its genuinely worrying not just that they truly have no idea, but that each government gets more and more lightweight. I didn't think anything could outdo for sheer lack of anything than Gidiot and Co.... boy was I wrong. Just imagine if this is a permanent trend. Just imagine in 10 years time.

    We'll have a commons with MP's playing with duplo and crayons.... and struggling.
     
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    Our transport secretary acts like Thomas The Tank Engine is the industry bible...
     
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    Some of us think that is what we already have.
     
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    I hope nobody works with American, Chinese, Indian or Australian companies... clearly according to puddings in this forum, unless you have an EU agreement, people aren’t allowed to work in the country.

    Maybe we won’t be able to sign African players... we aren’t part of the African Union either? absolute nothing story, I wish people would stop spinning this *****.
     
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    Not sure where to start with the above but it’s not as painless as you suggest. I work for an American company via a Uk subsidiary. Could I transfer to their US office? possibly as long as they can convince the US immigration that they can’t find someone as good as me already in the US.
    Currently my services are contracted out to an Austrian company. No problem as I don’t need a work permit to work in Austria. It’s a specific requirement written in to the contract I must be have a right to work in Austria and no criminal record.

    If we have a hard Brexit I will break the contract as I will no longer have a right to work there. I may be able to get a work visa but it’s by no means certain. Especially as there will be no process in place. Also even if I can there will be much more likelyhood of my client deciding it’s easier to get Europeans in now I am no longer one. I have worked in other counties but it’s much harder than currently working in the EU. Of course there will still be trade between the U.K. and Europe but it will be more difficult than now.

    A hard Brexit will be devastating for our haulage industry no deal really does mean most of our lorry drivers will no longer be allowed to drive into Europe. Hard Fact though our Minister for transport hasn’t understood that yet

    I couldn’t care less about football it will mean we can’t sign players like Cavare or Dougall. Or Managers like Stendell It won’t stop the Prem clubs signing internationals or Managers like Klopp or Mourhino but that’s not a big concern for me
     
  8. Sco

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    It is currently quite difficult to sign an African player who is not a proven international, same with South American or Asian. Although, saying that a lot of African players can play in the EU (and therefore UK) under the citizenship of their former colonial country.

    If I am honest, I can't see the government deliberately stopping people from the EU living and working here.

    However, I can see them overlooking something important that means that maybe the EU driving licence is no longer valid, or the ability of EU citizens to work here is removed by accident. Incompetence is the order of the day with the short-term thinkers who inhabit Parliament.
     
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    Illey out!! But as long as we've got Rammell to bring on we'll be reyt!
     
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    Whilst I understand your terror at the unknown, do you really think that everyone with work connections in the uk is suddenly going to have to stop employment ties? Do you really think the government would not grant work permits? Although I wouldn’t trust this government to have any of my interests at heart, they are not stupid enough to just to commit complete economical suicide by suddenly stopping all current employment ties.

    As for working in the states, it no longer requires such scrutiny, however that may change due to trump making America ***** again. Now if you want to move to America full time, that’s a different issue. I have a number of friends from outside the EU that work in this country without any problem. Whilst I understand your concern for haulage workers and there are many other problems like this that will occur the original post was about not being able to sign managers or players from overseas.

    I merely pointed out that people will be able to work here still. Yes it may mean getting work permits, but hey they’ll still be able to sign. However did we sign Eric Tinkler? He’s from outside the EU! There are many non EU players in the football league, so why would there be an issue? Why wouldn’t we be able to sign Cavare or Dougall? Dougall’s Australian so according to this principal, he shouldn’t be able to sign?

    I’m sorry if you think I’m being flippant about this, and I understand the worry for people with job ties overseas. However, I really can’t see much of an effect upon the way Barnsley FC operate.
     
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    Dougall is half-Scottish, so qualifies through that.

    Tinkler was a South African international so qualified through that.
     
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    So you’re actually saying you think we couldn’t sign someone not in the EU? Really?
     
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    Anderson Silva de França ?
    Hugo Colace?
    Mateo Corbo?
    Dennis Souza?
    Steve Mokone (pre EU)?
    David Mulligan?
    Jerónimo Morales Neumann?
    Eduard Robledo? (Pre EU)
     
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    Miguel mostto
     
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    Nope. Didnt say that. I said that those two players qualify under the existing rules. Dougall through his ancestry (he could play for Scotland) and Tinkler was an established international.
     
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    The full rules are available here http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/policies/player-registration/points-based-system

    Things I didn't realise:
    1. Registration costs £500
    2. More complex registrations need a panel and cost £5000
    3. The Home Office has the final say on player eligibility.
     

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