Sorry maybe didnt make myself clear in my post... i will vote Labour every time but not sure they are fit to run the country as it stands at the moment. Id rather have a half arsed labour in than tory though. I feel sadly Corbyn has been stripped of all credibility by the media and it is beyond repair. That's my main concern.
Let them start implementing the IHRA and using it to throw the nutjobs out of the party then it can be considered a success. Remember you’ve got Peter Willsman who had his support withdrawn by Momentum over comments made of an anti Semitic nature yet is still elected. . . But it’s all a right wing media conspiracy over anti Semitism and Corbyns links to various Middle East terror figures. The thing is if Boris Johnson was pictured with Maher el taher This forum would go into meltdown.
All this ranting and raving at Corbyn..you couldn't make it up if you tried... the Jews go on about the Holocaust and how they were persecuted by Hitler and how society not only looked but treated them.....and yet fast forward to today and ask yourself this are they themselves not guilty of horrendous crimes against the Palestinian people ....it appears one law for them one law for another...and before anybody goes on at me ...im not anti jew...i just find it stange and morally wrong that knowing their own history that they act like they do... it's obvious the way they treat the Palestinian people that if they thought they could get away with wiping the Palestinian people of this planet they would in my opinion......
You seem to be confusing the Jewish people with the Israeli government which in itself is either naive or anti semitic. The Jewish people are not the Israeli government. You keep saying they as if to point the finger at all Jewish people. It's also anti semitic to apply criticism to one side but not the other. What would people think if you said that all Muslims were responsible for the terrorist terrorists attacks we see? Saying 'they' when referring to Jews in reference to Israeli policy is bang out of order and if it was blacks or Muslims you were referring to then this place would go into meltdown.
Never said it did. But there never seems to be any mention of the displacement extermination or conversion of the Palestine Christians by the then Ottoman Empire.
Whereabouts in history do you start/ stop though. The Ottoman Empire ceased to be a long time ago. what has happened in Palestine continues to happen today. Therefore it is topical.
You've also got Yasmine Dar, a member of Labours NEC who is happy to praise the Iranian Islamic revolution while a British citizen rots in one of its jails.
You don’t, you will never have a more settled Middle East while ever Israel and/or depending on your choice of political movement the Jews exist.
I'd argue that two wrongs don't make a right Mr Shed. But then I have it on very good authority that you are a notable wind-up merchant, no?
Even more reason to stop harping back to the distant past for comparisons. Accept that the real fight is to get more meaningful dialogue towards a more peaceful co-existence of communities who are poles apart in some aspects.
Do we go with ideological purity or pragmatism, in terms of who can get themselves elected? Politics is the art of the possible?
Serious question. Which of the Labour Party’s policies are ‘too far to the left? Just three examples will do.
I heard John Mann on the PM programme tonight. I’m not a Labour Party member but if I was and heard the stuff he was coming out with i’d want him disciplining or potentially removing from the party. You can’t have party members voting in huge numbers for a choice of leader (of any political party) and then MPs in open rebellion against the will of the mebership. It’s egotistical indulgence and does no favours to those ‘traditional labour voters’ he purports to speak for.
Sorry , what part of Peter Willsmans rant was anti Semitic , it was bad judgement but not anti Semitic
Point well made. The current Israeli government are as bad as Hamas & various other organisations. Judging any people as a race is by definition racist.
I am a party member and John Mann doesn't have the support of his CLP. He lies and manipulates CLP meetings as he did only on Sunday. He said he couldn't attend a Jewish meeting and blamed Labour Party members for being unable to attend when he himself called the CLP meeting which are normally held during the week. He doesn't want re-selection as he knows he doesn't have the support of the rank and file. The good thing about this antisemitism is that the Israeli Government is clearly proven to be interfering in UK politics and even more people who have seen through it all are joining the party.
Yes there is things wrong with their regime . Lots I don’t agree with but by enlarge its lots better than anything that’s gone before for their citizens . As for the lady in their prison it’s diabolical and every democracy should put their weight against her and others releases. But let’s not blame shortcomings in order to throw the whole movement and cast it as evil because we don’t agree with everything there’s many things they do I disagree with as I disagree with our own govts whichever colour rossete they wear and as for wrongful imprisonments I can remember the Birmingham six . Stephan Klitsko etc in our so called democracy.