Really thought someone was going to get seriously hurt

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  1. Tyk

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    Yesterday i did think someone was going to get seriously hurt because of weather. When Cavare slid for ball and because of wet surface ended up in West Stand. Same with Lindsay late on.
     
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    Didn't Andy Liddell once fall down one of the gaps on the West stand and have to be subbed off?
     
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    Surprised clubs in pre season go to a warm weather training camp, when we'll over half the season is played in wet and/or cold. We'd be better suited to conditions like yesterday which happen often and weather wouldn't be used as an excuse as much.
     
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    I think it was more the Walsall player shoving Cavare into the stand rather than the conditions. Not saying it was on purpose like, just more of a coming together.
     
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    maybe SYP should have considered calling it off
     
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    Looked bad did cavares incident when it happened, he went and slid straight into the concrete wall. Looked like a push but the ref just let things carry on glad he was okay but like you say could of been serious if his head had hit the wall instead of his body.
     
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    Good job it didn't happen at East stand side as it would have been even worse clattering into those unsafe advertising boards.
     
  8. YTB

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    You obviously don’t understand the concept of warm-weather training, then. Training in higher temps makes you fitter. That’s the idea.
     
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    His head made contact near the top corner of the opening nearer to the half way line .
    Cushioned slightly by an advertising hoarding .
    Looked very nasty at the time as did both instances yesterday .
     
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    I sit in the West stand and have seen a few 'near misses' ,the worst being Andy Gray a few years ago who smashed his head into the corner of the advertising board . It's an accident waiting to happen and needs removing or moving back .
     
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    Just think it should be more about getting used to the conditions you play in the most. Bit like how Huddersfield got promoted after stopping morning training sessions, as games are never at this time, so it was pointless getting the squad in for 9-10 in the morning.
     
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    Really? It was only a bit of rain....
     
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    Is there anything you don't ever moan about? You always seem to have a negative opinion or an answer for everything.

    Warm weather training camps have the aim of getting the players fitter. Nothing to do with weather conditions.
     
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    Players can be just as fit in colder weather. If anything it would motivate them more because if you're cold you want to burn energy to warmer, but when it's too warm you don't want to push as much.
     
  15. YTB

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    That's completely away from your initial point, which I replied to.

    As for the above, I'm pretty sure Huddersfield were promoted because of a number of things. I don't reckon moving the hours of training was a huge factor myself. It's pretty commonplace that players train in the morning on the grass, and then do gym/tactical work in the afternoons. At practically every club up and down the land.

    I don't believe the rain had any impact on the result which I felt was fair, even if I do think we should have won.
     
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    Cold weather can tighten muscles increasing the risk of injury, especially if you haven’t done a decent warm-up. In warmer conditions, muscles are more pliable and the risk of pulling or straining something is significantly reduced.

    During the winter, sportsmen/women suffer from a lack of vitamin D, as they do not get enough sunlight, which is a natural source. Research suggests that not only a lack of vitamin D can lead to sporting injuries but that the vitamin can actually improve muscle strength, speed, stamina and reaction time.

    It is often said that a change is as good as a rest and many of the benefits of warm weather training are psychological. As already mentioned, it is easier to be motivated when the sun is shining but there are other benefits. Training away from the normal routine and away from work and other responsibilities can give athletes the space to refocus on their goals and objectives.

    The above is a quote from a PDF manual at work. On training.

    I'd give this one up, Dreamy.
     
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    Yeah yeah, just because you don't fancy two weeks in Inverness :cool:
     
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    Dreamy is being an arse. He always is. But, we went on a warm weather training camp in the British summer. We travelled south during a Northern hemisphere summer and as such had shorter days, less light. There is no beneficial physical improvement from doing this. That's not to say we shouldn't do it. The psychological benefits of being together in a training camp are measurable, but that would be true if it took place in Grimsby. You've said that Dreamy doesn't understand what he's talking about. Of course he doesn't, it's dreamy, but on this point neither do you.
     
  19. YTB

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    My point? The lad didn't see why football clubs take their players on warm-weather camps. He said that wouldn't prepare them for the sort of weather we endured yesterday at Oakwell. I pointed out why warm-weather camps are fashionable. For fitness reasons in the main. I don't believe I referenced Barnsley FC, nor the week-long trip to Hungary mid-July.

    From what I can gather on that (I didn't go), it was more of a bonding-session for the squad and the new coaching staff etc. Taking everyone away from their regular lives, their families, the norm. Spending time with each other, bonding. That's my assumption anyway.

    But maybe you're right, I know not what I'm talking about.
     
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    Worst I saw was our centre forward who also played for Sunderland and Shefff U banging his head on the corner of one of the gaps in the wall on the West Stand.
    Looked really bad.
     

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