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  1. e-red

    e-red Well-Known Member

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    Yorkshire safe after a drawn game at Headingley.
     
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    pompey_red Well-Known Member

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    They need 2 points I think to be safe?
     
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    2 points but, realistically, Lancs and/or Notts are not going to take maximum points. We should get two bonus bowling points even if we have a ‘mare.
     
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    Andrew Gale is a polarising fixture. You have the negative folks like myself who think it was an easy appointment to make and we've gone backwards under him.

    But then he's plenty of supporters who think he's done well to keep us up these past two seasons, in a transitional phase when other counties during their rebuilding have gone down and after Dizzy did a Sir Alex leaving the club in the lurch.
     
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    Get rid he was pinching a place in the side last two years he played too. He'd no option to take the job or sign on.
     
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    e-red Well-Known Member

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    Speaking realistically rather than mathematically. I think we are safe.

    We have a lot of work to do in the close season:
    Brooks leaving
    Plunkett gone
    Rashid? Who knows?
    Leaning a walking wicket
    No spinners

    Gale’s team building and motivation skills in doubt. It’s not been a happy ship this year.

    I understand the transition season argument, but we are Yorkshire and we win titles. Avoiding relegation doesn’t cut it. Hate to see Surrey winning a title.
     
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    Yeah chief exec gone as well. It's all a bit of a mess isn't it? We need to find a spinner and a quicky but it's the batting that's let us down really. Also when Worcestershire drubbed us a few weeks back we only managed to get a single point. Disgraceful really.
     
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    We’ve got 2 spinners both of whom will play very little cricket for Yorkshire

    Rashid is about to sign a 4 year contract but will play IPL and for England for most of the summer and Poysden who will not be needed due to playing most of the 4 day game in April or September

    The batters are all failing but apart from Surrey who play on a road every counties averages are down, again from trying to play cricket in spring and autumn not summer for whence it was intended!!
     
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    e-red Well-Known Member

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    Agreed about the 4 day game. We need a campaign for real cricket and internationals when not playing for their country in an actual game should be allowed to play for their county.
     
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    pompey_red Well-Known Member

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    I’m not convinced that internationals should be allowed carte Blanche allowed to play for their counties, jimmy Anderson wouldn’t be playing for England still if Lancashire were running him into the ground every week like the seamers of old days,

    If the only purpose of English cricket is to beat the Australians then the only purpose of county cricket should be to find the players to do that :)

    I can understand that members might want to see their international players now and again but the ECB pay the wages, there should be a better transparency however as moeen is allowed to play for Worcestershire this week, he may not now they’ve been relegated however
     
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    I agree but, unfortunately, counties are now gaming the system so that they sign honest county pros that are never going to be called up by England but good enough to win the County Championship. How are counties supposed to develop players for England when its not in their interests to do so? The ECB might take on their salary but there's no recompense for the years of coaching that has got the player to that level.
     
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    Agreed to a large extent, and it’s a shame Yorkshire have signed pillans instead of giving one of our own a go. it’s hard for counties but the way the payment structure for actually winning the county championship helps, 16k for 3rd, 32k for second, I think it’s 100k for winning it which is peanuts compared to the hand outs the ECB give every county yearly for development of players (and to keep them afloat) I’d obviously love Yorkshire to win the county championship and I’m in full agreement it’s near on impossible when up to 6 of our team are away with England. I’d much rather those 6 play for England though it’s a fine balance as if we ended up in division 2 because if it would the only next generation of 6 England cricketers come from Yorkshire’s ranks?

    Darren Stevens gets a hatful if wickets for Kent on seaming green tops, he’s over 40 and bowls at about 70mph with a following wind downhill, is this any good for English cricket? I know it’s fantastic for Kent but it achieves nothing
     
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    Playing for the county never bothered Trueman and Statham. Do players get better by not playing? Do they last longer? Not proven, yet Yorkshire members are expected to pay to watch a second team lose rather than a first team win. How many season tickets would Barnsley sell on that basis.
    It’s not club, or country, it’s club and country.
     
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    Also, how are we supposed to judge how good any potential England players are when they’re not playing with England class players at county level?
     
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    International games are much more frequent and intensive than back in the day. To be fair to Yorkshire the international situation hasn't helped Yorkshire. Not only do we see Root and Bairstow missing often but also Plunkett, Willey and unplanned Raschid on international duty. Also we have had Fisher with the England setup and Pujara and Williamson in and out of international duty. one or two injuries i.e. Cold and we clearly e haven't had a settled team and had to promote a few youngsters more than we should. I think this will be considered more for next season and is a reason they are making space and planning early.
     
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    In the days of those players, three day championship games were the norm. There were no central contracts and only one touring side came per year. I am sure Freddie T would have topped Anderson's number of wickets if he'd been on a central contract, and had played in the number of internationals that are played today.
     

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