Would Stendel have kept us up?

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  1. jak

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    As good as Stendel as done so far, I doubt that even he could get a squad of players that were dead on their feet after 75 minutes in every game to last the full ninety. Morris never stood a chance due to the outgoing coaching team not having the squad anywhere near fit enough.
     
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    Or if johansen had been sent off for two footing mallen
     
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    Played Birmingham off the park. Then RESTED several players.(cos they were tired)That’s when I knew he’d lost the plot. Don’t think Stendel would have been worried about the players being tired.
     
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    I think any decent manager would’ve kept us up given that we’d been out of the drop zone up to January without Moore, McBurnie, Gardner & players like Cavare, Isgrove, Hedges, Yiadom had missed large chunks of the first half of the season.

    It’s a bit early to judge Stendel but he certainly seems a better manager than Morais so I’d have backed him to get at least one more win which is all we needed
     
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    We were superb that day up to his sending off. Moore & Bradshaw looked brilliant together up top & then McBurnie joined a few days later. At that point I was certain we’d stay up & then a week later Morais was in charge
     
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    Whether he would or wouldn't is all conjecture. What I would say is that it's probably better from Daniel's point of view that he's starting from a relative position of strength in League One rather that being under pressure to survive in the Championship. The plus is that the players will probably have been more confident about the season ahead so morale would have been better from the off.
     
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    Don't disagree with that. Probably didn't help him going all George Galloway meets Rula Lenska and dropping Hammill for nearly 2 months either.
     
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    Or Vilson the second time or Lee Johnson
     
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    I am also in the camp that almost anyone else would have kept us up. Our team ws not great but it was a very poor division and Ithink we should have been good enough to stay up As a manager elsewhere he had done poorly and when a coach he worked wiith the real top quality players and not the type we had. We just needed to unify the players and get them fighting and it would have been enough to survive. I don't know if he is the worst manager we have ever had, there is healthy competition for that. I do think he was the worst decision we have made at the time
     
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    If Adam Davies hadn't thrown about ten in we'd have stayed up.

    If Keith Moore hadn't missed an open net from two inch against Leeds we'd have stayed up.

    If Mamadou Thiam had scored a single goal from open play we might have stayed up.

    If Lloyd Isgrove hadn't spent 2/3 of the season sat on his arse we might have stayed up.

    If Mowatt hadn't been so surplus to requirements and loaned out to the Third division we might have stayed up.

    And so on.....
     
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    After reading this thread I was thinking about some of the bonkers things Morais did, can you remember him rotating the full backs?

    I remember we were battling to stay up & I think we could’ve been away at Reading on a Tuesday night & one of our fittest players who’s barely missed a game (shoulder injury aside) whilst playing league football for the last few years, Andy Yiadom was sat at home because he needed ‘rotating’. Mental.

    Dani Pinillos flying back to Spain & missing a Tuesday game as he was been rotated for Zeki Fryers & wasn’t needed while the weekend.

    Having one of the biggest squads in Barnsley history yet none of the squad who weren’t getting regular game time were playing for the under 23’s & then Morais would randomly start one of them like Hedges without any competitive football for months & then cast them aside when they understandably had a bad game.

    Pretty certain we’d have got another win if Devaney or Hassell took over never mind Stendel
     
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    Well to start with we would have:
    Davies

    Yiadom
    Pinnock
    Lindsey
    Pinnilos

    Hammill / Mahoney
    Gardner
    Williams
    Barnes

    Moore
    McBurnie

    Having Barnes and McBurnie in the same team would be incredible on its own.
    Plus two wingers that can actually put a good cross in for Moore would be terrifying for any opponents.
     
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    Not a bad team. But Davies plus 3 out of the back 4 struggled in the champ. The midfield was very hit and miss. The strike partnership looks tasty but Moore didn’t really do anything in the champ. See that as a midtable champ team at best. Although if everyone was fit, in form, decent manager could do ok. Honestly can’t see it as top 4 though
     
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    Fourth bottom. At best.
     
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    You have to remember - the first half of the season there was about 18 new players thrown together - followed by a second half of the season with Morais in charge.

    Although all of these players played for us last season - some of them never played in the same team.
     
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    If we had him from the start of the season we would have stood a better chance than we did we were so poor both football and performance wise from the Norwich away game onwards hecky kept doing the same formations Bradshaw chasing shadows and expecting a diffrent outcome. Yes we were out of the bottom 3 but only because hull and birmingham couldnt buy a win. Hull made some quality signings in jan and ended up mid table brum appointed monk and were easily safe. If he had took over in Jan I'd probley say yes. It was so close but if we had beaten Bolton at home or got a point at their place or McCarthy stopped the cross that brownhill looped over Davies *who had about 10minutes to react his positioning was terrible and used his wrong hand to attempt to save it* we would be safe.
     
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    I think he would have kept us up. In the end there were some terrible teams that finished above us. I don't think McBurnie would have been on the wing for a start. Hecky did us no favours whatsoever in the manner of his departure & the failure to sign an experienced keeper was a massive error, however we had enough quality in the team to stay up.
     
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    Hard to predict, but the damage was done before Morais and he didn't step it up enough. Stendel may have but would we have sacked him if he didn't?
     
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    Too right the damage was done people try point the finger soley at jose yeah he was a poor appointment, but under hecky in the whole of November December and January we won 2 games Sunderland away and birmingham at home. We were out of the relegation zone on early season results and the fact hull sunderland and brum couldn't buy a win hull brought in wisely and went into promotion form birmingham appointed monk and picked up points.
     
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    Rubbish..
     

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