I’ve now had the opportunity to read the whole thread again, after a couple of Beers, so I now completely understand. And i’m Grateful to all my Colleagues who’ve tried to assist. As Stahlfost has pointed out (rather rudely I thought) I may have misunderstood. It’s only one point for a draw and a further point for winning the penalty shoot out. Got it, but’s that’s ridiculous. My idea of four points if you end up winning the shoot out makes far more sense and is much more in-keeping with the ‘spirit’ and rules of the tournament. Ah well. Can someone just clear up what happens if we get through this stage. As I understand it, we go straight into the Champions League knock out but only into the Europa League second phase of Regional Leagues if we finish runners up. Unless we’re an Under 21 London based team in which case we’re straight into the FACup final.