Kieffer's goal - offside?

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  1. Redhelen

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    We d have won without that goal so I fail to see it as a pivotal bit 9f luck.
     
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    Article on yesterdays game in the Daily Mirror reads as follows:
    "There were no Careless Whispers going around the Wham stadium.
    Bellow it from the rooftops , Barnsley are definitely in with a shout of
    promotion after a hard fought victory at Accrington Stanley- their third
    successive league win and clean sheet.
    Goals from Cauley Woodrow and the brilliant Keiffer Moore moved
    Barnsley up to third and on this performance, the sky is the limit despite
    having Zeki Fryers sent off for a second booking."
    Stanley Manager John Coleman said " the second goal flattered them
    because it was never going to be a 2-0. We now know we can compete with
    the team I believe are the best in the league."
     
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  3. Micky Finn

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    No he isn't.
     
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    This all happens at pace so as hes running alongside Potts - and through a static defence - he moves from an onside to an offside position in a fraction of a second.
    Whether that happens before or after the ball leaves Potts' foot is impossible to call. But certainly not as clear cut as first thought.
     
    Shy Talk, Nov 18, 2018
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    He was behind the ball when Potts shot so He couldn’t have been offside
     
    seethi, Nov 18, 2018
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    I keep hearing people say we’re getting hard done to by refs but I think if anything it’s the opposite. Every tight call seems to go in our favour & whenever our fans lose the plot over a decision when we watch it back later the refs got it right.

    Makes a nice change from the championship when we’re the smaller club who get shafted
     
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    Says it all. Was as hard a game as we had expected. Clean sheet. Win. We move on.
     
    John Peachy, Nov 18, 2018
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    Just my opinion, but I frame by framed it and he looked level with the ball to me. If he's level with or behind the ball, he can't be offside.
     
    tykesfan, Nov 18, 2018
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    Not even close to level with or behind the ball.

    Look at the distance from the edge of the 18 yard box for both ports and Moore. Not even close.
     
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  11. Micky Finn

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    But he wasn't level. Not even close.
     
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    Does it chuffing matter !
     
    Red CB, Nov 19, 2018
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    Nope. Goal's in the record books, thats all that matters
     
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    Not a bit, as stated in the OP.
     
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    Starting to realise why people are saying debate is dead on here...
     
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    For me its really hard to tell from that one camera angle - its close and as keefer is looking along the line at the ball I can believe he kept himself level with it, but equally if it had been given offside I would have accepted it - its a lot closer than the one which was clearly onside when Hedges raced past the last man after the ball had been played and was chalked off a couple of weeks ago.
    Also its not really important in that it didn't really affect the result.
     
    Farnham_Red, Nov 19, 2018
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    Its not offside.

    Phase 1 is a direct shot from Potts. Moore could've been 20 yards offside and it wouldn't have mattered as he wasn't considered active in that phase. Phase 2, the keeper parries it to him and he slots home.
     
    DannyWilsonLovechild, Nov 19, 2018
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    Nope thats not how it works its still considered the same phase when a ball is parried by the keeper
    Had the keeper parried it back to Potts who then crossed it to Keiffer who was then onside thats different and the 2 phase rule applies
     
    Farnham_Red, Nov 19, 2018
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    Its still not offside for me. But I do know that's not how you spell "Keiffer" (sic) ;-)
     
    DannyWilsonLovechild, Nov 19, 2018
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    Oops thats what happens when you are multitasking - i before e except after c etc...
     
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