Wilder or Fury?

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  1. Dep

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    When you’re scoring it you try to be neutral
    3rd round maybe draw and that was being neutral , though I would have gave it to tyson
    But apart from that tyson every round apart from knockdown rounds
    1st knockdown was weird couldn’t understand why he went down , thought it must have been a slip in real time
    2nd knockdown was like something out of rocky film
    Seemed to be spark out then opened eyes and got up surreal
    Wonder if massive weight loss had effect on his body/brain.
    Wilder was missing with everything and Tyson counter punching,jabbing, throwing the odd burst
    If only tyson had a bigger punch
    Knockdown rounds obviously 10-8 mandatory and he even got on top after the knockdowns

    Won it easy put on a champions face
    But must be gutted really
     
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    Top fight, Fury won comfortably on rounds but to take an American champions belts in America you need to not give them an option. Why ever fury just didn't play it safe in the last round I don't know.

    AJ now has a bit longer with his belts without fighting either one and then he'll hope wilder wins the rematch with fury as AJ won't beat a fit Fury.

    Fury should come back even stronger for the rematch with having time now to get his body right after his previous problems.
     
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    Good fight to see who's the second best heavyweight.
     
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    Telled thi
     
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    Only had to grab him and hug him or run around the ring and title was his
    I know it’s easy to sit on the sofa and say it
    But none of the punches watching it on tv seemed knockdown / huge punches
    As said earlier wonder if losing all that weight or high altitude training effected him , his body
     
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    Six more months and one more fight in his legs and fury wouldnt have lost a round.

    He barely did anyway.
     
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    Thought Wilder would knock him out. Fight went how I expected Fury the better boxer but Wilder the big hitter. Massive credit to Fury getting back up at the end can't think many heavyweights could in round 12.
    Put himself in a fantastic position now in the division. The two top Heavyweights in the division it's on Joshua to fight one of them now when he's ready.
     
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    It's no wonder people see Boxing as corrupt when you have Rochin giving the first four rounds to Wilder.......



    He shouldn't be allowed to judge ever again.
     
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    That fight just goes to show how bad Wilder is.

    Fury schooled him when all said and done. It was an interesting fight to watch and that last round was Rocky on acid. Fury should have danced around the ring and stayed out of his way then he’d have won the fight comfortably, not sure what he was thinking.

    I still think AJ beats them both, easily against Wilder and it’d be tight against Fury. AJ hits as hard as Wilder but is more relentless and puches come from different angles, which means he can win boxing rounds against fury.

    Not knocking Fury, he’s a great boxer. But one good performance against a terrible one punch swinger doesn’t mean he’d beat everyone in the division, and I think AJ is streets above anyone else apart from Fury.
     
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    I think Fury is a Zombie. The way he went down - banged his head, shut his eyes, then opened them and came up from the dead.

    I still don't think he's right in the head. Some of the showboating and the stupid comments about JESUS. Jesus. I was tipping a draw all along if Wilder couldn't get him out of the ring. I think AJ is better than both of them. He has almost as much power as Wilder, and is as good, if not a better boxer than Fury. Still this will keep the boxing promoters happy and the pay for view.

    I enjoyed watching it - at a reasonable time in a sports bar in Bangkok. Tuk! Tuk! Back to Blighty on Wednesday so will miss the Checkatrade game which I would have gone to
     
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    Maybe he is but until AJ and Hearn are willing to fight either Fury or Wilder then he can't be considered as such.
     
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    Even Deontays dad Gene would have thought their kid were lucky terneet, god bless him.
     
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    Fury was probably concussed in the interview, he took a big knockdown in round 12. I think a normal Fury would’ve complained about the decision
     
  14. YTB

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    Proud of Tyson. He won that, and did so by getting up off the mat twice. That second knockdown puts everyone to sleep, God knows how he got up. Like the Undertaker.

    What a return though. He looked better than the Wlad fight three years ago. Schooled him.

    I don’t see why he rematches him though, he’s proven he’s better than him. Unless it’s over here. I hope he takes on Joshua in April. Those who suggest AJ is better are on drugs. Joshua loses to both Tyson and Wilder. He’s a big stiff idiot.

    Dosser.
     
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    Rematch clause was already in the contract Andy
     
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    Don’t be daft Andy, AJ ******* destroys Wilder.

    Wilder wouldn’t beat Whyte, let alone AJ.

    I get that you don’t like AJ but the only fight in the division now is Fury and AJ and it’d be close, but I still think AJ would win.
     
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    All three judges gave the first round to Wilder. Even the judge who only gave Wilder one more round apart from the obvious 10-8s. Maybe I need to see that one again. Personally I scored it 115-111 to Fury. The two 10-8 rounds and, like whoever was scoring it on TV, I thought there was a case for Wilder taking the second. The other rounds I didn't even think were close.

    I don't think Fury was knocked out in the 12th. He was knocked down, undoubtedly, by a couple of cracking punches, but I think a few things were going on. Firstly, Fury was laid on his back kicking himself for being an idiot. For allowing himself to get caught in a bout he was undoubtedly winning (well, undoubtedly to everyone bar one of the judges). Secondly, he was catching his breath, taking a few seconds to compose himself, using his experience before jumping straight up. Thirdly, he was pillocking us. He was being the showman. He'd been knocked down fair and square. That's never a good thing. There's no victory you can take from that. But if you're knocked spark out, dead to the world, then you suddenly jump to your feet and start leathering your opponent, you're amazing. I bet he's pulled off that trick dozens of times when he's been caught while sparring.

    I actually have more respect for Wilder after that fight than before. No, he can't box. But he just got through a fight against someone who really, really can box. Someone who is 6 foot 9 and 19 stone, who has faster hands and is quicker round the ring than most middle weights. Someone who hit him again and again and again. And in the 12th he came up with a couple of punches that would win almost any bout other than against a daft Manc gypsy. Wilder isn't a boxer, but he's a fighter, and no one can still claim he's only fought bums because Fury is anything but.

    Great fight, wrong decision.
     
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    Whoever added up the middle scorecard shouldn't be allowed to judge again lol, adds up to 114-112 but was given 114-110.
     
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    Wilder annihilates Whyte within a round or two.

    Every single fight Whyte has he’s wide open to the straight right hand.

    A shot Helenius had him on jelly legs with it, Chisora couldn’t miss with it & Joshua hurt him with it repeatedly. Wilder’s a bigger puncher than all of them & has faster hands, he’s sparking Whyte early.
     
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    Wilder doesn’t throw a straight right. He’s done it once.
     

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