Defending corners

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  1. Mis

    MiserablePontyEnder Well-Known Member

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    Why do we insist on 10 men in the box? Frustrates the hell out of me.

    Surely a player down the field would help when we clear the ball and occupy another defender.

    More an observation than a moan, by the way.
     
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    onemickybutler Well-Known Member

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    This is one thing that really winds me up. Someone like Bahre with this movement and touch would be perfect to leave upfield for a clearance.
    Just don’t get why we bring all 10 men back at all.
     
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    Yes, it’s not like he’s strong in the tackle and good at heading the ball away is it? On yesterday’s performance he would have kept two, possibly three of their players on half way. Seems crazy to have him back in the box
     
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    can remember when John Aldridge was manager at Tranmere they came to Oakwell and left 3 sometimes 4 men up when we got a corner, however many you leave up the defending team has to leave an extra one back
     
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    Been saying this myself for a while, that said I don't know the stats have we conceded more or less than average from corners?
     
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    It makes no sense to me either. I'm sure there will be some logic in the new coaching manuals but I just don't get it.
     
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    Probably no more benefit leaving players upfield than you get by having them defend.
     
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    Thowt this for ages, sadly its been a something weve done with previous teams and under other managers, 10 men back just allows the opposition to pen us in and against Charlton we seemed to lose the desire to attack, which most teams coming to Oakwell fear most from us....talking to some reds fans at Blackpool they said the first thing Blackpool did at our corners was send a player upfield. really hope we adopt the same..
     
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    Pretty happy with our defence. If it aint broke dont fix it
     
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    I’m not sure we have been camped into our final third from transitions from set pieces and all back especially away gives us a good counter. What I have seen is is break from us quickly with usually 2-3 players who can carry the ball well and outnumbering the opposition defence on the counter. Seems to work and if the decision making when we get into their third from the counter improved a tad, ie Moncur, Moore, Potts, Bahre etc then would be even better.
     
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    Mido Well-Known Member

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    I read something on Twitter about Derby doing this. The explanation is that by having everyone back, the opposition will naturally put more forward. Then if you are able to gain possession you can break on the opposition very quickly so I presume that’s what he’s trying to do.
     
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    This.

    It is very oversimplified to see this as a solely defensive tactic.

    As well as cramping the box and making it difficult for the opposition to find space, making it less likely we concede from corners (as has been proven, how many have we conceded from corners?), it means there is more space upfield that can be exposed with a quick break.

    If it isn’t broke, don’t fix it. We concede little and have taken ten points from twelve against four sides all in the top eight, three of which who started the game above us in the table.

    I’m not sure any of us are in a position to question the tactical nous of the manager either. Jose Morais he is not.
     
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    There was once on Saturday where from a corner their centre half was limping around and stood about 5 yards in their half. This one would have been a good opportunity to leave somebody up top. Would have dragged a couple of Charlton players out of our box.
     
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    IS IT WORKING, why change summat thats working.
     
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    Been on abart this for ages gerrin someone on haif way line.
     
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    As i said higher up I don't know the stats but I assume we haven't let too large a percentage in from corners not too many spring to mind. At times last season it seemed like any ball floated into our area would lead to a goal so can only be a positive.
    The pulling extra opposition up to break is a great point btw.
     

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