But that’s not true, he tried 4-4-2 on several occasions & we were worse. There was literally nothing we could do until January. As soon as Moore signed we went 4-4-2.
He played 451 when he went Leeds. He had other options here bar a big hoof to Bradshaw and straight back to us.
Funny that isn’t it. Just like how he had a hand in all the successful transfers during his time but the unsuccessful ones were nothing to do with him...
I mean, I explained that it’s based on my own experience of fixed length contracts. Others have posted other examples of other managers saying the same.
Merely commenting in regards to previous posts in this thread about signings and who made them. The fact someone was useless and was a a Hecky signing adds some perspective to his performance as manager. Not that I’m giving mine by the way. Was a general response as well rather than direct, as I’m sure you gathered.
But there’s no evidence he was a Hecky signing. There’s only 2 players in the whole squad that I think anyone can say with any confidence that the head coach specifically wanted them & that’s Isgrove as Hecky had managed him before & Bahre with him coming from Hannover & been German like Stendel. The rest is all guess work. People will say ‘he said he watched him for so & so & rated him’. Well of course a manager will do that, he has to, you don’t sign a player & then say, ‘I didn’t really want him but we’ll see if he’s any good’ as it’d make your position untenable
I very much doubt it. Mowatt couldn’t get a regular start for Oxford last season & neither could Payne for Shrewsbury
I’ll second that. Fans are so fickle - some have the memory of a goldfish. The loss of Hecky has only been lightened by the appointment of a great manager in Stendel. If we had appointed an average type of manager and were sitting mid-table by now then this message board would be overwhelmed by posts complaining and asking for Hecky to be reappointed.
Lets remember according to some people Hecky wasn't involved in any signings whatsoever. According to others he signed some poor players. According to Hecky he was too busy dealing with CEO work on transfers to have any time left to sign players ;-)
Hecky met Ugbo at the Red Kite in Wakefield and begged him to sign for Barnsley over other teams. Now you could say he was just following orders, but if he didn't rate him I think he would have been less convincing in his plea to get that deal over the line.
That’s just common practice, he’ll go & meet every player. If he wasn’t convincing then the player goes elsewhere & we probably end up with a different kid on loan who was even worse as the board weren’t going to deviate from their strategy
You're completely viewing this from the view that you think out coaching team have zero influence on the players we sign and are refusing to budge. I just presented some facts and background info. No need to debate it any further really considering it was in the past.
No I’m not, they have a say from the players the clubs recruitment strategy allows them to sign. For example, Stendel ideally might think the best player for us right now is a 30 year old German winger but the club won’t allow him to sign him & instead we’ve signed a young winger from Forest Green as Stendel might think he’s the best from the pool of players been presented to him. In the same way that Hecky might think a 30 year old English striker was the best option for us but instead he’s told we’re taking a young prem striker on loan as we won’t have to pay wages if he plays, so he’s told have a look at these 3 options & pick one & Ugbo’s considered the best of the options available. In reality if any manager was making the signings they wouldn’t have filled the squad with young players with little or no championship experience
Mowatt always had the talent he was player of the season at Leeds at 19 and had alot of interest from premiership clubs. Monk preferred henandez to him at Leeds and we signed him in jan. I would have liked hecky to try get the best out of mowatt instead of playing him.put of position then loaning him out. He is a young lad who was loaned to a club miles away down south away from his family and friends something he has never had before as he had only played for Leeds before us. Maybe he just didn't take to Oxford at all.
No matter which way you look at it, heckys time as head coach will always divide opinion. Who knows how well he would’ve done if the team hadn’t been ripped apart and he was given the backing to put things right One thing is for sure is that a team that was built mostly under is tenure is starting to fulfil its potential whether the signings were his or not What I do know is that he didn’t reckon much to Pearson, Lee or Moncur so it’ll be interesting whether they play for him if he gets the job
Whatever it was he had about 3 years under performing & he didn’t perform under several managers. Just glad he’s got his act together before we got shut.
