Kate hopkins

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  1. YTB

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    Send them both to Syria, permanently.
     
  2. red

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    When they went the home office said passports of UK Isis fighters would be revoked. Probley just scare tactics we will roll over and have our bellies tickled and let her back in.
     
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    Might be a bit daft but being British doesn't mean you are automatically allowed a passport. Many including white 'typically British' people (just to clarify it isn't race related) are not allowed a passport if they are suspected of commiting a serious crime.

    It is also not rare to have a passport revoked because you are suspected or convicted of commuting a crime.

    Not having a passport doesn't mean you lose your citizenship it just means you aren't allowed a passport.

    Now we all know you cannot enter or leave a country without a passport.

    Solution? Revoke her passport, let her remain a British citizen but she can remain a British citizen out there with her terrorist mates, stranded inia self inflicted warzone unable to enter another country until she blows herself up either accidentally or on purpose. What a shame.
     
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    She was a kid who was groomed and brainwashed into leaving the country. She's been surrounded by jihadists and further indoctrinated into a way of thinking. I think she's been a victim in this. Guess I'm the nutjob SuperTyke was talking about earlier.
     
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    Dunno what the video is about but Katie Hopkins is a lovely person. It's not an act either, I met her before she was a rent-a-gobshite and she was already a lovely person.
     
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    I have zero sympathy for her "cause" but I do think that there is an awfol lot of knee jerk reaction to this story.

    One side of the coin could be that three silly little girls thought it'd be "cool" (insert more relevant adjective) to be rebellious and do something their parents wouldn't approve of.

    When they get out there the reality is very different to what they envisage. One of them is dead, the other who knows. She desperately wants to come home but is stuck there.

    She has no british passport, no help from anyone, she's utterly alone surrounded by hostiles.

    What is she realistically going to say in this interview?

    "I hate it here, they're utter lunatics and I desperately want to come home and get the hell away from this lot" - what happens to her then?

    Throat slit, decapitated - who knows what.

    Then again she could well be some radical mentalist who was telling the truth.

    Part of me can't help but think - what else could she say. I'd like to hear the story should she find herself back over here and see if she's still saying the same thing.
     
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    Strap them up, put then in the middle of a field and push the button, problem solved .
     
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    Your not on your own , some would turn our country into as hate filled and revenge hunting that we supposed to stand against .
    When people are agreeing with Katie Fekin Hopkins the world needs to stop turning.
     
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    That's not correct. You can enter your own country without a passport, as long as you can prove to the authorities' satisfaction that you are who you say you are.
     
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    She says she doesn't regret it. That makes her potentially very dangerous. Not sure it makes her a victim though.
     
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    As i said brainwashed.
     
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    Once she sets foot in the UK, what do you think should happen to her?
     
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    Just wondered when I first saw this story if the girl was saying the things she's been
    saying. under extreme duress. ? Previously, in propaganda videos, some captives who were
    lucky to escape or were allowed to leave, said they had been threatened with being
    shot or beheaded if they said anything remotely critical of Daesh or El Qaeda ,so contrary to
    their better judgement ,they read out a pre- prepared statement only to be critical once they
    reached a place of safety. Sounds as though her family are attempting to influence the
    Home Secretary to abide by the law. Wouldn't be surprised if a funding appeal was
    started and Human Rights lawyers employed from the proceeds to ensure she is repatriated.
    Fully agree with other opinions, she is naive if she thinks she has the automatic right to return.
    If she does, she should not be surprised if she is arrested and recieves a custodial sentence
    because of her support of a terrorist organisation. Sure fire way to make sure she doesn't get
    back into Blighty, is to give the sole responsibility for her travelling arrangements to Chris Grayling.!
     
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    Be spoken to by relevant authorities, assessed to see if she actually poses a danger to anyone and be given psychological help to deradicalise her and integrate back into society. She could be an example of how people can come back and function in society.

    Won't happen tho. She'll be arrested, her child will be taken into care and her treatment will foster deeper resentment within her community in the UK. At a guess.
     
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    You don't think she should be arrested for supporting terrorism? That should just be one of those things we let slide?
     
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    What if it transpires people have died by her hand? Are we still going to bang the victim drum? As long as it gives people justification to despise the country they choose to live in and blame it for any action they decide to take, that's all that matters.
     
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    I'd look at each on a case by case basis.
     
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    Under UK,EU and every other International law and treaty,it is illegal for any Country to make any of its citizens Stateless. This UK citizen has the right to return to the UK, it is true that she has broken UK laws and would be arrested on return. It is also true that she,along with other people in the UK were groomed over many years, by people who have since been arrested. No one is condoning her or anyone else's behaviour,but whether you or anyone else likes it,due process and right must prevail.
    Our country is in a terrible mess,our political class have failed, Right Wing commentators and politicians have rushed to the airwaves today to condemn a innocent protest by children around Europe today. The same politicians who have lied to the UK and failed to deliver Brexit and will spend next week on holiday, rather than try to sort out the mess.
    Rather than spend time being groomed by the likes of K, Hopkins and other commentators, you open your eyes to what is really going on.
     
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    She was a vulnerable 15 year old girl who was groomed. I haven't seen anything about her that says she has done any terror related act. It seems she was nothing more than a piece of meat for ISIS. We have IRA killers living on the mainland and little is said about them.
     
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    I wrote what I think. And you quoted it. I'm clearly in a minority, but I think she has been coerced into her current belief system.
     

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