Great starting 11 in league 1

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  1. Tek

    Tekkytyke Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a happy clapper and most of the posts on this thread regarding January dealings - either way - are reasoned arguments.
    I did think the OP was a wind-up though as it is completely OTT.
     
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    For what it's worth I agree, but don't feel the need to mention it every time we don't thrash the opposition.
     
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    Did he post we were short upfront after we beat pisg away 4 nil without moore or Woodrow and pinnilos and fryers out so having to play williams in his 1st season of senior football?
     
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    This^
     
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    I thought it was common knowledge that the club needed to plug a £6m revenue gap that was lost due to relegation? Because of said revenue gap, any investment in the playing squad would have to be minimal, so I can't go along with the feeling that January was a disaster, disappointing or any other negative description as it was basically what I expected to be.
     
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    Not many, just better quality ones in certain positions. We could have then sent those who aren't good enough (yet or ever) out on loan until they are ready to play or go.

    That is all most people are saying.
     
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    But the club only has a certain budget to spend. For all we know the powers that be may have had to make a choice between having a top drawer strike pairing with their back ups being youth prospects, or getting rid of one of either Moore or Woodrow, but being able to have 2 more complete(or ready) players as back up.

    In League 1, you have much stricter FFP(or whatever it's called in L1) rules, so it's not even like the owners could throw 2 or 3 million at the squad from their own back pockets, as they would still be shackled in the amount of wages they could pay.
     
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    But as said earlier, with our wage structure and transfer budget we can't have quality back ups in every position. Nobody can in this league. We've got a first team squad of about 23 players.
     
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    Why do some people go to the extreme when someone mentions better quality backup. We can do better than Adeboyejo and Walton for example without busting the budget.
     
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    Can we? How do you know? Are these mythical players happy to be squad players?

    Davies is established as our number one. If you're a keeper in your mid 20s, do you really want to come and sit on the bench in League One? Do you balls.

    Same goes for a striker. You know you'll be behind two high class (for the level) forwards. Who wants to come and play 15 minutes a game. We we're out of the cup in early January. So we're only fighting on one front. We've also shown we can get results when one of our big two misses a run of games - so 4-4-2 isn't essential. Why would a striker in his peak years want to bench warm for Barnsley?
     
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    I’m not panicking at all. I just think we’re a couple of injuries off been really short. Yes we’ve got bodies I don’t think anyone’s disputing that, it’s the quality of the back ups. Like I said above I think there’s only 4 who aren’t starting who I don’t have concerns about coming in & been ready to go as starters.

    We play lots of games & play a high pressing style, injuries & fatigue may well become a factor. Cavare, Pinnock, Lindsay, Mowatt, Thiam & Moore have played a lot of games. Woodrow & McGeehan have played a lot of consecutive games.

    I know we can’t spend fortunes but we flogged Potts & Moncur in January & for me the squad should be a bit better balanced.

    Fryers for example should’ve gone in January, we’re carrying 3 left backs currently which seems a bit excessive especially when he’ll be on first team wages & is now third choice.

    Them wages would’ve been better served on a striker in my opinion.

    I’m not the biggest fan of the loan market but considering we can’t have Miller until next season I would’ve seen a striker on loan as a logical acquisition with Brown now first choice right winger.
     
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    There’s always plenty of players out there hungry for a chance, big clubs carry 70+ players. For example I’ve no doubt we’d be able to go out & get a player who’s playing U23’s football to come in & be our sub goalie or 3rd choice striker knowing he’s one injury away from been first choice for a promotion winning outfit.

    Like in the mould of Ashley Fletcher when we got him before.
     
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    So in terms of strikers, the only options are a £4m Championship player or a player who should have gone to the Conference South when he was released by a club who finished bottom of the entire Football League? It's one or the other?
     
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    I know what you're saying.


    But Fletcher was one half of our starting strikeforce. He wasn't signed as cover (unless I'm forgetting someone).

    Then there's the 'Liverpool Clause' which means we have to play said loanee for fear of financial penalties - I wouldn't want that thrust upon us.

    I don't know what the solution was - ideally it would be maybe a journeyman forward who knows how to win a promotion and who could guide the younger lads through the final months of the season - kind of a Ramage player. But obviously with our transfer policy that would never happen.

    I agree that on the surface out transfer dealings in January did seem odd. We sold our first choice right midfielder and let an impact sub go to strengthen our rivals. We also bought a player who we can't have until July. Maybe that was the issue? Maybe we were gambling that we'd be able to do a deal with Middlesbrough/Bradford that would see us buy out his loan. That obviously didn't materialise.

    So in conclusion, Christ knows. But I don't think we're as short as people make out.
     
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    Pisg.? Who are they?
     
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    Plenty would jump at the chance of being No.2 at Barnsley. There can only be 92 No.1 goalkeepers in the top four divisions. We could also have picked up someone on loan, who has more to offer than Adeboyejo. A player who has already had a successful stint on loan at a League 2 or lower League 1 club for example. We have a good reputation with the top clubs for nurturing their youngsters.
     
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    I mentioned it around that time yes. Oh and before that time too. What's your point?
     
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    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't that plugged by having a clause in all players contracts significantly reducing their wages? By selling players? By increasing ticket prices?
     
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    We have just got 19 points from a possible 21 at home.

    We didn't beat Burton (didn't lose either or concede)

    Can't see the need to over react.

    We are second in the table.
     
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    Judging by some of the posts on this thread, I'm starting to (sadly) believe that there are posters on the BBS who in order to satisfy their basic human need for significance are looking for the team to fail in order to prove (correct) either their pre-season predictions of struggle, their misgivings over the incumbent ownership, or their disastrous foreboding of the January transfer window. None of which have yet been realised.
     
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