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  1. Red

    Red Army Well-Known Member

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    rumours abound double signing of gregory (millwall) & davies (barnsley) imminent
     
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    Thought Davies was going for the £20 000 a week at Burnley?

    Stoke didnt exactly set the championship alive last season.
     
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    Saw that yesterday done deal apparently
     
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    Well if he's off let's get it out of the way quickly. He wants a change, more cash and with Stoke he's probably joining a team with more chance of staying at Champ level even if the mood around the Potteries is a bit depressing at the moment.
     
  5. Donny Red

    Donny Red Well-Known Member

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    Apparently Birmingham City are also expressing an interest. Davo could be tempted at
    the thought of joining up with Roberts again, as he's been told that he's on their retained list.
     
  6. Men

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    Let’s be honest we only put on the retained list that we offered him a deal to save face. It’s been evident for months from Davies interviews etc that he was going to move on.
     
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  8. Donny Red

    Donny Red Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately contracts don't count for much these days. They seem capable of being terminated
    all too easily when it seems to suit, although for the richer clubs that doesn't seem to matter, as they
    come to some arrangement to pay them up.

    Where I used to work, our nPower National Account Manager,was a Blue nose and when I once spoke to
    him , he said he had never rated Roberts. When Townsend signed for us, he also predicted that he would
    struggle to ever be the regular first choice keeper in our team.
     
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    Not saying it's not true but.. that "imminent" thing, as been around for at least 3 weeks..
     
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    Donny Red Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if we can read anything into this, but I was speaking to a Cousin who
    lives in Poole and her and her husband are Season ticket holders at AFC Bournemouth.
    Her husband played himself when he was younger and so is very close to some reliable
    sources of info down at the Vitality Stadium.

    His contact has hinted that Bournemouth are reputedly preparing to offer Asmir Begovic as makeweight
    /bridge in the £30 million valuation Stoke City have put on their current keeper Jack Butland. Begovic
    previously spent five seasons with Stoke and was a supporters favourite, so such a move might suit
    player and fans alike, if of course it happens.

    Not reading too much into this claim, but I wonder if that probably means that Stokes rumoured move for
    Adam Davies is not now going to take place, or do we still feel he's on his way.?
     
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    You do know the transfer window only opened on Thursday.
     
  12. Men

    Menai Tyke Well-Known Member

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    He’s on his way one way or another. His interviews towards the end of the season made it pretty clear to me he was looking to move on.
     
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    Donny Red Well-Known Member

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    He went on the trip with the other lads after the promotion celebrations and seemed
    to be enjoying himself, but I regret to say MT, I agree. I think we will know anytime soon, what his likely
    intentions are. I suppose with Walton at the Club, if we bring one of the two keepers we are being linked
    with in, that could tell us that AD is off.
     
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    Davies has been excellent for us but his inability to dominate the 6 yard box (never mind the 18 yard one!), makes me think he’s not irreplaceable even at our budget levels.
     
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    just quoting what i'd read and i suppose time will tell
     
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    A club cannot terminate a players contract without a very good reason (i.e. gross misconduct). Not fitting in with the current gaffer's plans isn't a good reason. A player being bought in the 3rd year of a 5 year deal is not the same thing.
     
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    Donny Red Well-Known Member

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    I realise that a player can't cancel his own contract Pete. I was thinking more in terms of players like
    the former West Ham United French International Dimitri Payet, who told the Club he felt he was
    regressing in the lower reaches of the Premiership and as they were basing their game mainly on defending,
    that negated the need for having him and his fellow attackers in the team.

    Unbeknown to the Hammers, his agent had been holding talks with Marseille who wanted him and were
    hoping to get him for £25 million. With that information in mind, he told West Ham he wanted to leave.
    The Board flatly refused and when the story of his unrest emerged, the Board put a £100 million price tag
    on him.

    Knowing that any Club would baulk at that fee, Payets next move, was to state that he would never ever
    kick another ball for the Club and declared that he had gone on strike. He received several threats from
    fans, but never lost the resolve that he wanted away. In late 2016, he met with the Club and without going
    into details told them that he was experiencing family problems and really needed to go back to France.

    In January 2017, West Ham met him and his agent and by "mutual agreement " after finally realising that
    true to his threat , he was never ever going to play for them again and as they needed the money for Bilic
    to strengthen the team , they duly let him join Marseille for £25 million.

    Another "ruse" to get of a contract was told to me by an ex-pro I know. Namely cause as much crap and
    be as disruptive as you can and invariably you will get your wish of getting out of your contract. A journeyman
    I played alongside he had played for five league Clubs. He said a player he knew was notorious for being appointed
    as the PFA rep at each of his clubs. If he wanted away, he would start "stirring " and would deliberately cause his
    Managers trouble. The boss didn't want to admit they were not in control of a player, so kept quiet whilst later
    advising their Board that ideally, he felt it was time that the player was moved on.
     
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    Payet's "family problems" was his wife catching him with his pants down and demanding to move back to France. It wasn't a money-making ploy.
     
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    Just spotted this article from 2017 from the Guardian. Like another I've read, it doesn't
    give the details of his so called "family problems". I've read elsewhere, he has since admitted
    he was a dic*head ( his exact words) for not giving West Ham any choice but to to let him go.
    Given his actions, I'm surprised that at the time, Sullivan and Gould didn't go after him
    for breach of contract when he went on strike and refused to play. It seems they took the easy option
    and freed him to allow him to return to former Club Marseille. I suppose the only consolation was that
    they trousered £25 million.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/10/dimitri-payet-west-ham-bored-defensive
     

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