All this Corbyn bashing..

but the 'realities' are not known.
The EU is constantly changing. Following the recent elections the make up of the EU parliament will be very different to what it was a month ago - different Presidents - different dominant groups etc. (beware the rise of Nationalists in France Italy Hungary.)
Were we to have another referendum the Remainers would be as much in the dark as the Leavers with regards to what is on offer.

My guess is that the UK will leave because it's in the interests of both main parties to do that because once that happens the threat from the Brexit Party will then be removed.
Once that happens we'll see other countries France, Italy and possibly Poland heading to leave.

 

Maybe when the new MEPs take their seats we should have another vote then? After all, if both Remainers and Leavers are currently in the dark about what is on offer until they do, they must have been even more in the dark 3 years ago and the vote can’t possibly be a fair reflection of how they feel about the make up of the EU.

 

Or...
if we’ve elected someone to represent Peterborough who proves to be unable to carry out her job, should we have another vote?
Yes. We just did.

If we elect a government that fails to perform, we go back and have another go.

3 years since ‘we’ voted for Brexit and despite a lot of hard work by a lot of people; we’ve failed to do anything remotely positive. If that was a government we’d be having another election.

So... you had a point, just not the one you thought you were making.

 

I was just wondering, If a huge cyanide / coca cola bath was put on the pitch at Oakwell on the first match of the season & everyone in the ground was forced to drink it, because 51.9% had decided it was a good idea... would that be OK, or would people be able to say I'd like to remain?

 

Democracy means nothing to you....

 

Good point, let’s have brexit... if it doesn’t go well, vote again!

I promised not to get involved on here again, but this is my last one lol...

 

I guess you are going for mass extinction?

A referendum drawn up badly is not democracy. our elected representatives, the ones that we are supposed to have "given back control" to cannot agree, as it is the equivalent of sawing your left leg off to save your life, leaving us with a trade deal with the orange monster & his chlorinated chickens, whilst he takes our NHS.

 

Whatever fits your agenda... it’s still not democratic, but crack on...

 

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Your view might not change & neither will mine. I've been strongly opposed to TTIP & other EU policies, but as a member we have a veto. May's deal left us to accept that ****, but I'd have accepted it, if our sovereign Parliament had passed it. We are now looking at Boris taking us to the bosom of our recent visitor. If you think there is a plan for us to do better I'd like you to spell it out, as I cannot see it. Go knock yourself out & explain it to me. For the record I support Corbyn, but, whilst I think his policy may be right, in first trying for a General Election, I think Parliament may still be split & we will be back in limbo. Sometimes you have to take sides. This conversation bores the **** out of people, but it it still needs resolving in an educated way that we can live with & I'm not getting that at the moment. Feel free to let me know what the plan is, if we leave on WTO terms, which will kill many of our businesses. I do agree that a prolonged stalemate is not good either, so putting 3 choices to the public, in a fair way may be the only real way of getting through this. I know a lot of good posters on here are pro leave & largely I think they knew what they were voting for, but the Ireland issue & a bunch of others were never discussed in the last vote.

 

A thousand and one Brexit threads on here and another thread gets hijacked and turned into a battle ground between the leave and remain camps...

 

No Thatcher and Whitelaw both were in regular contact with prominent iRA figures.

 

I thought the EU was all unelected bureaucrats? How does the EU elections affect anything, in that case?

 

Corbyn dropped one over the Trump visit.

 

There is alot more to that than we will ever know. Like most things it isn't as black & white as it seems.