Should we have a General Election?

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  1. Red Lemonade

    Red Lemonade Well-Known Member

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    Yep. A deal will be required for flights into and out of the UK. It's not a difficult concept. By definition, no deal = no flights
     
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    Not completely correct. International carriers can still operate between hub airports, so BA could fly Heathrow to CDG or Schipol (for example although BA are now part of a Spanish group), but smaller carriers would need some kind of deal to fly to non-international airports. This is the majority of the UK-EU flights, with EasyJet, RyanAir, etc.

    Flights from the Channel Islands and Isle of Man would be unaffected, but those from outside the EU might need rerouting to avoid flying over EU airspace until a deal is reached.
     
  3. dek

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    just remember that when some of you are putting your trust in the 'experts' , these self same experts said our economy would nose dive and recession would be inevitable if we didnt join the euro zone common currency
     
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    i'll bet everything i own that none of the above would happen
     
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    At the minute it is unlikely that we will leave without a deal in October. The new PM would be the shortest of all time - beating the 119 days record of someone that died in office. But, in the event of "no deal", that is the legal situation.
     
  6. dek

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    i agree pal, i just dont see the scenario happening
     
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    How rich are you? Don't forget I'm your best friend.
     
  8. Marlon

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    But Trump definitely said the NHS would be up for discussion once Brexit happens .
     
  9. dek

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    i dont think trumpy understands the concept of our NHS and what would happen if any of our politicians dared to privatise it.

    privatisation would be political suicide and i'd hazard a guess that any party trying to go down that route would never govern again.
     
  10. Marlon

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    It’s being privatised now . There’ll only be a shell left soon anyway and the last bit of medication and administration is the Americans goal where the real money is .
    Interesting May never denied it then or since .
    The Tories will wrap it up in a bow for them so the Trade deals we are forced to take but triumphed by the govt as great deals .
    Like most things thrust upon us it’ll come in slowly and gradually until once again our generation will have undersold the next generation the privileges we enjoyed from our fore fathers .
     
  11. Red

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    If you, MF and I were in a partnership (a work one - say we have a building firm - don't think a personal partnership would work!) and we decide to split up we would sort out the conditions for the split. Neither of us would get everything all our own way but it would sort itself out.
    If we split with no deal and no agreements we would be forever chasing each other to try and resolve things
    The point I'm making is that leaving the EU with a deal does eventual conclude, leaving with 'no deal' is not leaving at all because the existing agreements (hundreds of them) will still be there and there will still be a legal obligation to meet them.
    The UK can't leave without a 'Deal.' If there's No Deal we are still in the EU.
     
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    In a similar vein, am I right in thinking if we leave with no deal, we just do one as it were, we don’t have to pay the 39 billion etc? Is that right first?

    Because if it is surely when we then go to the EU and say can we have your security intelligence, access to services and a trade deal etc.. well to put it politely they might tell us to p*ss off?

    Seems a strange place to be.
     
  13. Red

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    We can only leave with a deal. If there's 'No deal' we remain legally tied to the EU because existing contracts/agreement will have to be legally honoured. Farage Boris Raab etc talk of leaving with 'No Deal' - it can't and wont happen.
     
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    No deal is a myth. Two people own a house one decides he wants out and a deal is worked out and they then go their own way. If they can't agree on the conditions of a deal they can't go their own way. If there's 'No Deal' between the UK and the EU the two organisations will be as joined together as they are now. And I would assume the 39 billion isn't paid because a 'No Deal' means the UK is still in the EU.
    The politicians have been a bit divisive having wrongly led us to believe we can leave with a 'No Deal' - we can't.
     
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    Thank God for Ed Balls, the best chancellor of the exchequer we never had, who was instrumental in convincing politicians on both sides not to enter the ERM. As far as experts on Brexit go we're not out yet so keep your powder dry before saying they're wrong on the effects of Brexit.
     
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    No it’s not one sided no one said it was but that doesn’t mean they’ll just give us what we want does it ?
    We offer services as our main export lots of other countries can offer these services to the EU as well .
    There’s still no evidence that we’ll be fine outside the EU and most of the experts think we won’t .
     
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    If two people who own a house can't agree on the conditions of a deal, then one can force the other to sell.

    Just saying....
     
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    Genuine question... Is this an opinion or are you stating a fact? If fact, can you supply a link or suchlike. Thanks.
     
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    If one person owns a housing estate & another person wants to sell (their single house), & they set the rules of the housing estate. Who will be the winner?
    Answers on a postcard.
     

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