Our next Prime minister on BBC....

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  1. Donny Red

    Donny Red Well-Known Member

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    If they squabble like they did during that debate last night and do their best to shout over each other,
    God only knows how they are ever going to put their personal opinions to one side and reach
    consensus over Brexit and any other important matters of State they will have to decide upon in the future;
    that's if many of them feature in the next Cabinet of course.

    As far as I was concerned, almost everything that was said, was empty rhetoric and not one of them would
    or could guarantee anything, because in all honesty, it's impossible for them to do that. There are too many
    unknowns for any of them to have a steer on what the reaction of the EU might be , if approached for fresh talks.

    I can't for the life of me think, why Johnson or any one of them for that matter, are so arrogant as to think that the EU will capitulate and make wholesale or even cosmetic changes to the deal that May has tried and failed to get through Parliament in the past.

    As for Ms Maitlis, it was evident from the very outset, she was not the right choice for the job. She was far to lenient and as some have said, at certain points started shouting over others to make her point or to ask a question.

    Jeremy Paxman, Andrew Marr or Fiona Bruce would have probably done better. The whole thing was a farce. Even the setting was strange. At one point they looked like a boy band about to break out in five piece harmony.

    Not for me I'm afraid and judging by the adverse press and social media criticism this morning, very few of the people who watched the debate last night were impressed either.
     
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  2. Jay

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    Politics is now a reality TV show and the winner gets to become Prime Minister.

    Stop the world, I want to get off.
     
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    What on earth were the BBC thinking about, putting those plonkers on? It's not a general election, it's an internal party issue. Should never have been given air time.
     
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    Found it quite entertaining as I think we were seeing the first stages in the death of the Tory party.
     
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    100% agreed
     
  6. George Kerr

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    And that's before they clear up the ********.
     
  7. Donny Red

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    He's right about one thing. If if we do indeed make progress on leaving the EU, there's no Jack Pallance
    that it will happen on the 31 st October 2019. If the new British Prime Minister is successful in getting the
    EU to reopen the Brexit talks, unless they hold an emergency session, the earliest it could be discussed
    would be the 1 st of November, because that's the date when the EU reconvene after their recess.
     
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    It was up to the last 10 minutes.
     
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    I suspect a version of Theresa May's deal will get brought back before the house, with a tweak or two, and will get voted through, mainly because that now looks like the only realistic way to prevent no-deal.
     
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    Those 5 muppets last night made a good case for Theresa May staying in post, which says a lot about the options available
     
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    Been saying that for a while. The worst PM in living memory (Earl Russell was worse overall at least), and she is still the most capable of the Tory front bench.
     
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  12. Donny Red

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    Rory Stewart now eliminated with 27 votes. Bet he will support Gove now.
     
  13. Del Rosso

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    I can't see anyone seriously challenging Boris now.
     
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    Most people slate it for being a bad deal, without ever explaining why ( other than the ERG) To be honest I was always of the opinion that it wasn't a bad deal...it came reasonably close to Labour's position in assuring a softer Brexit...or at least softer withdrawal.
    In my view it fell foul of the fact that no deal will ever suit those who want to remain under any circumstances...and no deal will ever suit the ERG types.
    I think there are a number of MP's who now wish they had supported it in the first place.
     
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    As a remainer it wasn’t a bad deal for me, I’d prefer to stay but that won’t happen. The problem was the DUP nutters will not support it because of the back stop, neither will the majority of the ERG. the rest of us moaning about this or that won’t ever achieve anything imo.
     
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    The bar has been lowered so much since the last vote, it’ll pass. Most MPs, like the electorate, have lost the will to live about the whole sorry farce. Only shitstorm brewing would be the DUP pulling their support for the Tories in the house, which would probably lead to Boris calling an election.
     
  17. Donny Red

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    Just shows how concerned the EU are about Brexit. It's listed as the final item on the agenda
    at their meeting tomorrow and they have allowed a total of 5 minutes for it to be discussed.
     
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    Forecast: Gove comes second at teatime and within 24 hours does a deal with Johnson so that Boris gives him Chancellor or Home Secretary. Boris becomes King, Brexit is delivered, the country is ******, the rich don't suffer and we all live happily ever after!
     
  19. Donny Red

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    Javid out, Gove now second in front of Hunt.As you say it looks like a fight between
    Boris and Gove. Gove might get the Health job as Johnson will need an experienced
    negotiator to carry out his plans to dismantle the NHS.
     
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  20. Donny Red

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    Gove eliminated. Choice now between Johnson and Hunt. God help us.
    Can't wait to see a possible future cover of Private Eye. Could be Boris
    in a suit of armour with his sword on a steed shouting " once more into the shi*e my friends."
     

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