This Mark Field getting suspended

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  1. YTB

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    I felt it was way over the top, no need for it.
     
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    Let's set the record straight if he had been a labour man the Tory press would have been calling for him to be hung drawn and quarted secondly he can shout from the roof tops he was still wrong and over the top with his aggressive stance.. Also if its right what I read earlier the woman in question had an invitation to be there hence she got past security so easy.. Typical tory member believing they are above the law and can act accordingly....
     
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    You're on the wrong side of history. Would you have said the same about black civil rights protesters and Sufragettes? I mean it's only the environment and the City of London are known for being complete dicks. And Greenpeace do target others, just about anyone in fact.

    He said, "she might have had a gun!"

    That's why he grabbed her round the throat, not the hands.:rolleyes:
     
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  4. North Yorks Red

    North Yorks Red Well-Known Member

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    Would you have said the same if they decided to protest at Oakwell at 3pm on a match day?
     
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    He was definitely too rough but I think hes given Greenpeace a lot of attention. He was over zealous in his use of force BUT if protestors are interrupting a private dinner ( that's what it looked like from the photos?) they should expect to be moved.
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    I’d hope no one would have physically attacked someone for handing out leaflets at Oakwell.

    Let’s keep some perspective:

    Handing out leaflets.

    What on earth is wrong with people - I pass people with leaflets most days of my life and I’ve never felt like grabbing any of them by the throat.
     
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    Completely agree with you. Handled terribly.
     
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    Shows the assumption of entitlement that these b******* have that they feel that common assault doesn’t apply to them. Nothing worse than a bloke in a penguin suit surrounded by other blokes in penguin suits attacking a woman who cares about something. Peaceful protest about how the capitalists are destroying the planet is purely legitimate. “No right to be there” does not apply.
     
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    AB4B6AF7-C036-45CF-8F6A-D5BA9CB85CF2.jpeg Nice man
     
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    Would so love for there to have been a big hooded teenager listening to some loud gangsta rap on that tube journey too.
     
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    Thing is there is a lot being made of him grabbing the back
    used to happen when I was a kid, somebody being anti social and somebody would tell em where to get off. Nobody cared if it was an adult telling a kid off, if they were doing wrong end of
     
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    He’s not security. If he really did worry about safety then he should be pinning her arms to her sides/manoeuvring her arm to drop her ‘weapon’ (phone/leaflets) not grabbing her around the neck and leaving her arms free. Once he got over his shock of a woman who’d been in the room 5 minutes, wearing a Climate Emergency sash and handing out leaflets walking towards him, he could have blocked her and then asked her to leave with his arm on her back to propel her if he felt he really needed her to leave and there was no security. The fact he then said for someone to remove her, not apprehend her, shows he didn’t think she had a dangerous weapon, yet he continued to hold her by the neck until he shoved her outside. He then told her ‘This is what happens when people like you disturb our dinner.’ He didn’t feel threatened at all.

    Edited to add: I received Team Teach training when I joined my first school due to a pupil who was going to be in my class. It is mainly about how to de-escalate situations but also included how to physically restrain violent children (and adults) if needed to protect themselves and others and also how to move them to another area. Not one of the techniques involved grabbing them around the neck and pushing them, although they all were effective at safely moving someone who really didn’t want to be moved.
     
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    If I had grabbed him like that what would happen to me? That’s your answer about what should happen to him. He’s a sexist piece of **** chucking his weight around. I’m 6ft odd do you think the tory **** would have tried it with me?
     
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    Unlike some on here Jimmy I'm very consistent with my views on aggression and violence no matter who the target is. I'd be furious if it was my daughter - I'm on record saying I think he could have dealt with the situation better. I can see why she was stopped from going any further but he handled it badly - there were more appropriate ways of stopping her.

    I'd be unhappy with my daughter for being in that situation. I don't have a problem with protest but as I said in my post I think it was wrong to approach the floor in the way she did.

    I'd also be unhappy with security for allowing the situation to escalate in the way it did.

    The bottom line is that the entire event was so avoidable and nobody comes out of it looking good (in my opinion).
     
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    No way this would get off the ground as an assault.
    He did what he believed necessary in the split second he reacted to her rushing towards the big wigs on the top table.
    Had it been a bloke there would be no fuss with the manhandling out.
    Are we, in this day and age, so naive to think women are not capable of extreme violence or terrorist acts?
    I have prosecuted 3 female murderers in the last 2 years and have more on the books.
    And how does all this square with equality of treatment? Surely the sex of a potential violent attacker is as utterly irrelevant as it is in all other roles/walks of life.
    I hate the Tories and don’t care for Mr Field but today’s events have highlighted the ludicrous grip the professionally offended now have over the popular mindset - everyone too terrified to say what they really think.
    The incident does not make Field a mysogonist, he had no need to apologise, he should not have been suspended, there is no need for an independent enquiry - just a bit of common sense.
    And unless we press the reality reset button sometime soon we can look forward to a future of ever increasing nonsense of this kind.
     
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    That wasn’t a private dinner, it was a power dinner. Cameras were there, what’s private about that?
     
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    What's a power dinner? I was just saying how it looked but apparently the protesters were given permission to be there?
     

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