Lads I work with are convinced of e-cigs' safety. Scientifically proven, innit? In the same way that doctors recommended Brand X of cigs 100 years ago, and the same way that the radium girls' jaws were dropping off while their bosses sat in metal containers because the bosses knew of the dangers.
I was a smoker for years but thankfully gave up ten years ago.Fair enough Ive no argument with the smoking regulations but to totally ban it is ridiculous.Smokers have been frowned upon for years,now its the turn of the poor overweight people.Drug addicts and gamblers get more sympathy.Anyway when all the perfect people stop driving their nice cars and flying round the world il vote for the ban.Thank god for the 60s,70s, 80s and 90s.
Well Banning drugs hasnt worked all that well Banning alcohol in the USA didnt work either all it does is drive things underground and there isnt even any tax revenue it is in fact one quite strong argument for legalising some drugs thought thats a whole new debate
There will never be a ban a smoking because of the tax revenue, imagine the amount of money they will loose unless they start putting high tax on vape liquid which no doubt they will soon (feel free to bump this in 11 years time)
And the snow scene in wizard of oz was pure asbestos. I think that people should still be allowed to smoke but for every cig they have they should have to eat a lump of dog ****. Keeps Britain tidy
All true, as I said I'm not sure if it would work. I guess the real answer is education. The ones I see on a morning don't seem the sharpest.
I'm not totally sure how I feel about it to be honest but I don't feel it is comparable to other drugs, alcohol etc. Smoking is harmful to others and kids have to grow up inhaling those fumes in their homes up and down the country. If it was banned I think the vast majority would aim to go to vaping and not source cigs illegally. If smoking and alcohol were both invented today I'd have thought both would've been banned. I think David Nutt said something similar in his book, Drugs without the Hot Air. I'm sure the taxes will be missed but eventually so will the cost to the NHS in treating smoking-related problems such as cancer and COPD.
Prohibition worked well in USA after all! i think it should remain how it is, the take up of smoking amongst under 18s has fallen dramatically. We dont have enough police for serious crimes let alone making smoking illegal.
Currently on holiday at Haven, the number of trash, scumbag parents billowing smoke when kids are around is staggering. All for banning in public, but personal choice and that means I can't support a total ban. Problem is the cretins smoking around kids would ignore a public smoking ban anyway.
I think there is a big difference between the usual ridiculous nanny state stuff and it’s opinion on smoking, namely that smoking affects people who have no wish to participate. Personally if folk want to smoke as long as it doesn’t affect me a total ban seems a bit harsh I suppose but I certainly don’t miss the days of coming in from a night out stinking of smoke. E cigs I don’t get either as I can’t believe that they are actually harmless and wouldn’t be surprised if somebody eventually proves them to be harmful, which will be awful given that a lot of ex smokers and previous non smokers have taken up with them.
I smoked from 14 to 34. Peer pressure got me started. The addiction is strong. I never came close to quitting. Until I was introduced to vaping. I’ve never even looked at a cigarette since. Not had one urge. Been two years and felt healthier in both my mind and body. I’ve put a fair bit of weight on in that time but I put a lot of that down to being 37 next month, an office job, beer and the fact I can actually taste food now. It took about six months from stopping that I began to feel better when playing football, my lungs clearing I suppose. Taste buds returned etc. I don’t smell like an ash tray. I actually feel repulsed by the idea that I ever smoked. Best thing I ever did was stopping. No idea if vape juice is safer, but my body and mind suggests it is. So far. It’s much cheaper to do too. For now. I assume that’ll change one day. As for the social aspect, I have a simple e-cig. It doesn’t blow out those stupid clouds. It’s small, barely noticeable and the smell (according to non smokers/vapers) is actually quite nice. We still have to go outdoors. Fine. I don’t believe in banning smoking though, no more than I believe in banning alcohol.
Let people smoke if they want to. It's heavily taxed and we're going to have enough problems with an ageing population as it is.
I read somewhere that they can erode the lining lungs and cause a burst lung pulmonary pneumothorax I think its called
I smoked from about 16 till I was 37. Then I gave up and a stress free place too., The Falkland Islands, I was in the R.A.F. I used to be a 20 a dayer but suddenly realised I was smoking less and less to the point where apack of 20 was lasting 3 or 4 days. I di not suddenly quit I just had one as and when I fancied it then it just kinda tailed off and I gave up totally. Been free of them now for 27 years. I do not miss them at all. I am , however, not a holier than thou quitter, I was addicted and know what that means. I do not condemn smokers I know the cravings. Before they banned them in social areas like restraunts / pubs/cinemas etc I did not complain to smokers around me. I do not see a total ban will ever be able to be enforced somehow. I was of the era that had smoke rooms in pubs and smoking areas in the others. Its laughable that they are looking into this ban when there is a big debate to legalise cannabis and marijuana. If welook at the trouble the drug dealing causes across the world and the alcohol prohibition in the USA then we will see that it will only drive it underground and become another crime area.
I too vape and an ex smoker . For what it's worth ; I've had 2 chest x Ray's , 1 while a smoker and one as a vaper for unrelated reasons to smoking . Upon visiting my doctor for my results of the 2 nd x ray I did ask if my chest was any better since the switch . He replied much better though he could not recommend vaping as no clinical trials had taken place so was not in a legal position to do so . In short they do work and hand on heart I'd rather quit than go back to normal cigs . As for the let's ban fags brigade , how's about getting rid of some of these fast food joints . Sick to death of my hard earned taxes having to go to diabetes treatment year on year just so folk can live off crap .
People would live longer but still have differing health problems that cost the health service and also draw pensions for longer. Call me cynical but the governments answer to every problem is tax.
If it was tax then surely they wouldn't ban smoking as it generates huge amounts of income? It is believed smokers pay in tax far more than they take out through treatment- I get that, I was just pointing out that some money would be saved treating fewer diseases. There would be other savings to be made on less litter etc too, granted probably not millions? My main reason though for being open to it being banned is passive smoking, particularly for young children who have no choice in the matter. If smokers could be trusted not to smoke in the house with kids in then as far as im concerned crack on- unfortunately not all can.