Antisemitism

They are discredited. And yet time after time the mud is being slung.
Labour isn't my first choice at the ballot box and, as far as I can see, they've made a total hash of dealing with the whole situation but, nevertheless, they're being smeared. And anyone using the serious issue of accusations of racism to falsely smear an opponent is, in my book, as good as a racist them self because it's diluting and distracting from the genuine instances.
Despicable.

 

But this suggests that the whole country and everyone who lives there is one body and all have the same opinion. Israel (the government) has some terrible foreign policy and some very good foreign policy so to judge them solely on one policy is wrong in my opinion. The whole issue with Palestine is horrendously complicated and both sides can be as bad as each other.

 

As we were discussing the Israeli government (as per my original post) I thought that was clear?

 

They certainly are making a hash of dealing with things and this is down to the leadership. The way some issues have been dealt with has been nothing short of diabolical and you're spot on that failing to deal with the false accusations is allowing those doing real damage to continue damaging the party.

 

Well I was. You asked why questioning the policies and actions of a nations government was racist. I said it wasn't. It's perfectly legitimate to do so. I also went on to give examples of when criticism crosses the line and becomes racist.

 

I think anti-semitism is an incredibly small issue that shouldn’t have had a fraction of the air & column time it’s had.

We’ve got far more important issues with Brexit, the economy, Trump, Iran & Labour are actively pursuing a general election. If they were spending lots of their time on anti-semitism cases then I’d be asking serious questions about their time management & why they aren’t dealing with more pressing issues.

The biggest problem is that many Labour MP’s (led by Tom Watson) want Corbyn out & for Watson to take over with his Blair like New Labour policies so they’re quite happy to pretend that anti-semitism is a major issue as they’re trying to push Corbyn out.

Just to clarify the Panarama documentary was a complete hatchet job that featured 7 people giving their ‘experiences’ of anti-semitism. Between them all 7 are either members of Friends of Isreal, work for the Israeli embassy or were featured on the Al Jazeera The Lobby where an undercover journalist filmed Labour Party members willing to accept huge bribes from Isreal to deliberately spread lies & harm the Labour Party.

None of this was mentioned on Panarama. The lad on Panarama saying he was suicidal due to the racism he received, guess what? He’s sat at the side of the woman been offered the bribe. The female MP saying all she gets is questions about Isreal, guess what? She’s head of Friends of Isreal. It’s laughable that it was ever broadcast.

The problem is it sticks, you get someone like Piers Morgan who hasn’t done his research but watched Panarama tweeting to 6 million followers that anti-semitism is rife in the Labour Party & unfortunately people believe the lies.

I think there’s also an issue that your average member of the general public hear ‘Labour Party member makes anti-Semitic comments’ & instantly think of MP’s sat in the House of Commons. I’ve got family members who are members of the Labour Party, others on here will have. There’s 600,000+ of them. Literally anyone can become a member & anyone can go online & type abusive comments. These aren’t your MP’s, they’re mainly keyboard warriors who’ve become members recently.

I think it’s 0.06% of members have had cases against them. That’s not a crisis.

To put it into context I bet the percentage of fans at Oakwell who have racially abused a black player last season is far higher than that judging by a few posts I’ve read on here over the past season. Have we got a racism crisis at Oakwell? Of course not, we’ve got a few idiots who still think it’s acceptable who need to sort themselves out.

 

I'm a labour party member. I believe strongly in the labour movement, I'm also strongly against any form of racism, including Antisemitism. I do think that there are elements of Anti Israel and anti jewish sentiments in any left wing establishment as people go down the rabbit hole around rich elites. Its not racist to suggest that there are a number of incredibly powerful jewish people but it is racist to suggest that Jews run the world. Some people in Momentum though hold it against every jewish person and therefore everything attached to Israel or any other jewish state is somehow attached to some kind of powerful underground movement that runs the world.

I'd rather focus on the people rather than religion, the Rothchilds of this world are an elite force of power mad elitism, and I couldnt care one jot if they were from Cleethorpes, Bognor Regis or Jerusalem.