Fact is some of our fans are racist, thick, let off smoke bombs and invade the pitch

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  1. BarnsleyReds

    BarnsleyReds Well-Known Member

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    The point is though, in that situation the selfish and pointless act of letting a flare off forces some that have paid money to be there to vacate their seat.
     
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    Probably in the fact that they're singing a song about a black player, the words refer to a stereotype and the song has never been sung about a white player.
     
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    Where would we get that evidence from? The knuckle draggers singing it fall into 2 camps:
    They know that it's a racial stereotype - that it's wrong but they think it's funny and don't care - they'd lie to us
    They have no idea that it's racist or they don't believe it to be

    So where will 'evidence' come from?

    I really don't care - in my world view 'my club' are being described as having racist fans, and that implicates me; so I think the answer is simple - I don't have to agree that the song is racist - I just don't want to be associated with it.
     
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    If racists insist then yes it will be, you obviously have an issue with this particular subject.
     
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    havana red1 Well-Known Member

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    I agree.
     
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    I don't see what benefit a smoke bomb provides that justifies inconveniencing our own fans with asthma. You're happy for some people being forced to move just so some knobheads can pretend they're Italian ultras?
     
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    Exactly, now it's time for you to care.
     
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    Can I ask how someone suggests they can stop people singing it?

    Is it much worse than the song sung to Bobby Hassel?
     
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    Not this again for Christ sake.

    Instead of having a matchday thread, could we please have a Racist Thread? That way I know what to avoid on this forum, and we can keep all the racist knuckledraggers to one thread.

    If you're still asking questions, pleading innocence or ignorance then **** off and support someone else.

    It's getting me down all this.

    We're a laughing stock and I hope the EFL throw the book at us. Yes it may be short term pain for many a decent fan, but the long term gain will be that away games may once again be a decent day out.
     
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    Another one with no manners, it's ok to abuse people on social media isn't it?
     
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    Well given it's a criminal offence to voice anything racist in a football ground - arresting a few might make everyone else think twice.

    FFS!!
     
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    Not getting into it if your going to start dishing name calling out from your keyboard. And just for the record I know all about rasicm
     
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    It’s nearly as good as some of the self righteous ***** that this and other threads on this topic seems to have brought out.

    There’s excluding my family about half dozen black and mixed race kids frequenting games that I know of.
    I can guarantee to a man (and woman) that those I know, none are offended.

    Lads I train with, these are what you’d call ‘roadmen’ can’t make their minds up what funnier, the song or the amount of middle aged white men getting their M&S y fronts tangled.

    It’s a positive stereotype. That only seems to be challenged because the recipient is black and straight away it’s who can shout it’s racist loudest.

    Far from the negative sterotype we have about our chums from Doncaster and the connotations to the traveller community.

    Calling a traveller a pikey holds a similar weight to using the N word towards a black person.

    Yet to a person, nothing gets said about that.

    The sheer hypocrisy and double standards amazes me.
     
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    You sure do.
     
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    Actually it is yes, do you have any idea...
    Club needs to look at these kind of people.
     
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    Completely misunderstood my point.
    And that point is a sychophantic hypocracy when it comes to who is setting flares off.
     
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    Well don't then, get back in your group.
     
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    There's no legal basis for protection of us from Doncaster, or my family who are ginger
    Why does this need pointing out every other day?

    It doesn't matter what you think - we are under a spotlight, and you and I will once again be associated in the press with racists. Smell the roses, this song /chant is damaging all of us whether you think it should or not.
     
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    This calling people out for being offended ******** has to stop. You can't have a go at someone for being offended - if someone is offended then it simply has to stop. Whether it's one person or a thousand people.

    As I've said before, and a question I've still not had an answer to from the Robinson's and Farage's of the board is this. My brother in law is black. We've been to many away game recently when the pondlife have been living down to their reputation. Racist chanting in full force (this includes yesterday). My brother in law has been offended on numerous occasions. He's been embarrassed to be a Barnsley fan. So have I.

    Is this wrong?

    Are we wrong to be offended?

    Are we wrong to leave an away game when a "fan" has a go at a black linesman for not keeping up with play because "they're supposed to be fast". Or that he should get his flag up and "pretend it's a spear"?

    Are we wrong to be offended?

    Because if you could let me know what we can be offended by, and whether there is a sliding scale of how much we can be offended by, then that would be great.

    Answer the question.

    Don't skirt around it like many do on here.

    Are we wrong to be offended?

    Answer it.
     
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    Listen am not condoning any form of racism one bit I’m drawing similarities to the leud nature of the song
     

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