... and already I'm seriously considering not going to football anymore. Please don’t just “flounce” me as this is something I’m deliberating, and im not doing this for attention. Thing is, football is just becoming more and more pointless. Money driven, to an extent that your triumphs (getting promoted) lead you to the land of huger inequality, where your purpose is survival and nothing more. So everything you wish for leads to less happiness. It’s daft. Then you chuck in the prices. £39 an away game. That’s me out. Then you chuck in the behaviour of our own fans. Challenge it, and you are some medieval bore who never once previously witnessed an atmosphere that wasn’t created by the hilarious pyro throwing racist chanting fans. They invented atmosphere apparently. So, with 40 + years under my belt and a daughter and nephew who attend with me, I’m already contemplating that this season might be enough. I can’t comply with the money, the pricing ir the yobbery. It’s exaggerated in the Championship but I’m really thinking I’ve e had enough. I love BFC but everything about football feels wrong in this league.
I agree with you about the ticket pricing generally. It's taking the game away from it's roots to an extent in my opinion. As for the thuggery, haven't we always had the moronic idiots? Having said that if by some chance Barnsley got to the Premier League and then the Champions League would you go and watch them or not? Just asking.
There is a genuine football point here - I don't think I'll ever witness a season as much fun as the last one. where every match attended felt like a possible win, where often we were head and shoulders above the opposition. We were seriously outflanked yesterday, and the behaviour of our fans was awful, making a crap stadium feel even worse, not a great day out.
I think we have always had the minority of idiots, i just think that previously they kept their nonsense to themselves, whereas now they insist on involving everyone, and also criticise people who have the audacity to not want to be part of it.
I’m not sure i’d bother attending the Champions League qualifiers but i’d certainly go to final against Bury - no matter where it was.
I agree with a lot of what you have put - attitude of some of our own fans on social media is sickening. I've never been one to stand in with the crowd - singing , chanting at games. Suddenly I'm not a proper passionate fan - sickening when you are made to feel like that with 40 years under your belt. Think a lot of it is social media which seems to bring the worst out in a lot of people. I know it's a tiny % of our fan base but it is disheartening - I do like it on this site (most of the time ) - lot on here have been posting and going to games for years, are incredibly knowledgeable about BFC and IMHO the life blood of the club and I do feel welcome and like a proper fan - not felt that over the weekend reading other sites. Going to try and fit in next week I'm going in tanked up with flares sticking out of every orifice - that or just get wound up at bad ref decisions while chewing on a bag of midget gems!
I completely agree. Saturday was my last away game, and at the minute it's a toss up as to whether it was my last ever game. I think I'll probably go tomorrow night because I'm not finishing on a loss to Wednesday. I've had a season ticket since 98/99 and I've been going since the early 90s on and off. But I'm struggling to associate myself with some of my fellow 'fans'.
There’s no two ways about it really, seeing a little girl having to be taken out of Oakwell crying after we scored against Fulham because a smoke bomb was let off near her and it ended up irritating her eyes really puts a dampener on going to the game for me. If a little lass at the start of her journey with Barnsley FC can’t watch a game with her dad without having to worry about pyro going off everytime we score then we are f*cked as a fan base I’m afraid. The ultimate irony is they’re setting off pyro to try generate an atmosphere apparently and all its succeeding in doing is killing it and ruining future trips away by teams giving us reduced allocations/no bars or refreshment kiosks open/increased police presence.
I have no problem with flares or singing songs that people try their utmost to be offended by. What I would say - is this needs to be away from family areas of the ground - both at home games and away. So why has a father taken his young daughter into a corner of the whole stadium where this is likely to happen ??? Lack of thought ???
You’ve no problem with 2 things that are arrest-able offences in football grounds. Well that’s a relief; how about wife beating, or a bit of P**i bashing on the way to the ground? What a laugh eh? What s disgraceful attitude from an ‘adult’.
So you defend racial stereotyping. What a surprise. People going to a game and paying on the day may want to go into the cheapest part of the ground and then be allocated a seat in the offending area of the ground. I previously have. But you crack on defending what is clearly wrong because it doesn't fit your Neanderthal outlook on life and football.
The lack of thought is entirely on the people setting off the flares/smoke bombs in a place where it is illegal to do so.
Neanderthal - well that may be a way of describing it. Another way of describing it would be - of an age and brought up in a time when people weren’t: Living a life wrapped in cotton wool Over sensitive Easily offended Relinquishing all responsibility Mollycoddled Poncified Weak wristed Lacking any sort of backbone Having others think for them Bleating that society should carry them through life I could add to the list - but I’ll leave it there. If you don’t want to be in a place where flares and bad language is used ........... then I’ll spell it out for those that clearly need help ....... you don’t go to that place.
Would that be the age where black people were discriminated against? Women were discriminated against, underpaid, treated as second class citizens at work? Where football hooligans were running around attacking people for wearing the wrong coloured scarf? Homosexuals were jailed? Is that the age you yearn for? A time when normal people were excluded from certain places because those with foul, antiquated mindsets should be allowed to dictate the norm? Wanting a fair, open, tolerant society is not weak wristed or poncified. I note your use of language on those two points by the way.
My brother in law is Black. He is offended by the Racist chanting at Barnsley games. So am I. Is this wrong? Please answer the question.
A pessimistic view and I'm not without sympathy for it. I think it gets worse the higher you go in the league. I feel sorry for Spurs fans who can't get tickets at any price for their new ground. Gone are the days when you could get up on a Saturday morning and decide to go to a match. If you haven't planned it weeks in advance you've no chance at the top level. Just moves the game further from the fans. At Barnsley, so far, we are lucky to be able to pay on the day with most home matches. There have always been idiots that see going to a match as an excuse for antisocial behaviour and they need to be policed out of the game.
If this is a wind up post nudger it’s a very poor one. If you seriously think that those with asthma young children or those offended by racist chanting are the ones who need help then I’d say you are part of the problem. My Dad stopped going away several years ago due to the selfish attitude of fans who were using appalling language and racist chants. One game there were several families with young kids round us and when one dad politely asked the tons behind if they could tone it down a bit they deliberately got even worse. My Dad came away from that game and said he was done with away matches When people who have been going for over 60 years stop going then it’s clear something is wrong he still goes to home games at least in the West Upper the morons seem to be absent If this is really what you think supporting football should be like I’m with the OP It’s a shame but a minority are ruining it for the majority.
I must admit I am poncified and have no backbone. Next time somebody lets off a flare near me I'll breathe deeply, inhale the non -toxic fumes and ask them to let more off so I can also watch the match through a kaleidoscope of impenetrable colours. I'd never looked at it like that before. And, next time I hear some monkey-chanting I'll join in and celebrate with all the other singers or I'm simply proving I'm not a real fan. Perhaps I should pick up a bunch of bananas on my way to the ground as well. After all it would be good for the local greengrocers and any of our black players will know its only a bit of fun from real fans. I feel educated now. Thanks Nudger.