[Official Site] Club Statement.

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  1. JamDrop

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    Even then, quoting the statistical fact in a medical or other relevant setting would be a far cry from quoting it every time a black person walks past you.
     
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    On what grounds? Racist chanting is an arrestable offence. Fans have even had the luxury of two warnings about it.

    https://theovertake.com/~racism-and-football/home-truth/
     
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    but look at the response to that statement - BFC is in the National News Papers/Television/Internet for all the wrong reasons.
    The club should have been aware that this may happen - and the guy at the centre of all this has been hung out to dry.

    Does the club really think that their statement is going to deter anyone from repeating the same chants - (the chanters will be loving the mischief and controversy they've caused and the publicity they're getting.)

    Firstly the Club need to take legal advice re. is the chant racist / is the chant offensive - i.e. are the chanters breaking the law.
    My guess is that they wont get a definitive answer because as with a lot of legal issues there are grey areas.
    (I don't think SYP will want to have anything to do with this issue.)
    If the chanters are breaking the law they can be identified - and banned from the ground in the same way as say someone causing criminal damage to seats can be banned.

    The chanting is abhorrent and nasty and I would like it stopped but how this can be done when it may not be classed as illegal is a massive challenge for the club. What shouts/songs/ aimed at players are permissible and which ones aren't?
     
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    I think we should s boo when they start singing it to let them know they don’t represent us .
     
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    Jesus!! this is doing my head in.
    the fact that it's on sky and they're reporting that bambo has been abused is factually incorrect.
    I agree that the chant serves to confirm a racial stereotype and I also agree that it needs to stop.
    however for sky to report that bambo has been racially abused is off the mark. the morons chanting the chant, I suspect, are, not looking to abuse bambo but are doing the opposite and chanting for him.....as bizarre as that sounds.
    how did man u deal with the lukaku thing? I read that he asked fans to stop but what did the club actually do?
     
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    ps at swillsbro on Saturday a couple of kids (boy and girl, looked like brother and sister,aged mebbe 8 and 10) were chanting the chant. I clocked the adult who was with them and he just looked down and smiled....as if to say "Kids eh!?".
     
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    what did the club do --
    with the best of intentions they issued a statement that made the problem worse - worse for the club (now branded a racist club by the national media) and worryingly, worse for the player in question who has been hung out to dry.
     
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    That’s horrendous.
     
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    What I don't understand is that why single out this one chant or abuse and consider it more offensive than any other?

    Not defending the chant at all, just saying I thought on the tannoy before the start of every match it says racist or offensive chanting / behaviour.

    Being offended is something personal. One thing that may offend one person, for another person it doesn't even register on any level of being offensive..It's a minefield.

    In fact, would it be wrong to find someone being offended by something offensive? Seem to remember an Aussie comedian doing a sketch on being offended, good listen actually.

    I don't swear at the match because I am aware of young children within earshot, but not that it matters because there are so many things being shouted that they would hear anyway. Just make a conscious decision to keep it clean lol.
     
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    You can't seriously blame BFC for the lazy Sky Sports reporting? It is Sky that is totally wrong and inaccurate.
    How do you know the club hasn't already taken legal advice?
    Who has been hung out to dry?
     
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    The fact that a racist chant about a black man's genitals has generated this volume and intensity of "debate" (ha!) should be a source of great embarrassment.

    That people are defending is indicative of not a little ignorance: in the literal sense of the word. I'm not calling anyone stupid — although some of you clearly are pretty thick ;)

    Sidenote: I reckon we could establish a positive correlation between chant-apologists/sympathisers and Brexit Party voters/supporters/loyalists — but that's just a wee hunch of mine.
     
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    Because Sky has suggested that Diaby has been ABUSED by his own fans. That does not tell the story of what happened.
    Misguided fans sang a song in worship / praise of a player. It includes a racial stereotype, which may be construed as being racist. Sky are giving the impression that our fans are acting out of hate, which is simply not true.
    The club rightly issued a statement asking for the chanting to stop, but Sky's reporting gives totally the wrong impression.
     
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    Not like Sky to try and sensationalise something is it? They're operating in the same market as the Sun and the rest of the sleazy tabloids.
     
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    But like I said what about the song that has the lyrics "**** the pope" I'm sure to a religious person this is far more offensive than it his to a black person singing about his ****.
     
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    The weirdest thing in all of this, is that a number of BFC's male fans have clearly dedicated some time and thought to visualising another man's nkob, then going on to further fantasise it to be of a significant size. They then can't resist the compulsion to celebrate their mind's construct by openly singing about it whilst often jumping around in close proximity to other men and hugging each other.

    Each to their own, but it's not for me.

    Just saying.
     
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    The third paragraph of the Club Statement which implied racist behaviour at the club would have got the attention of the story hungry journos.
    It would be wrong to believe that all journalists stick to the truth and never give a story a slant which they feel will attract the readers.
    The club was naïve in not anticipating how this issue might develop especially as the club itself was hinting of racist behaviour at Oakwell in the Statement. The club, maybe unwittingly, gave the journos the ammunition for their story.
    (if the third paragraph had been omitted there may well not have been these stories in the national media.)

    The player at the centre has been hung out to dry - bad enough for him when it was a local level story. More problematic now that it is a national story in the press/social media etc.
    I hope the club look after him.
     
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    We’re going to have to agree to differ on this one. I see the club as trying to protect the player. They haven’t asked him to make a statement. They've done it themselves and quickly.
    The club has to be seen to be taking action. It has to be seen to be taking it seriously. That is what they have done.
    The only people “hanging him out to dry” are the scummy journos and the fans too stupid to understand that this song is inappropriate. If the club had said / done nothing there would have been an inquest from fans wondering why they are allowing this to go uninvestigated.
     
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    What would you have the club do?
    There's an element of truth in what you say but what is the alternative?
     

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